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profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Beautiful day with local community. Lots of physical labor, all my joints are swollen, back sore, soles of my feet aching, but a beautiful day of people working together and recognizing what a special group we have.
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Many leaders acquire authority through ambition and manipulation. Iโ€™m not referring to them. But a test of leadership for those who acquire authority organically, with the will of those being led, is to maintain the zeal and principles which put you into that position, after you encounter the machinery designed to exhaust, exasperate, deter, and demoralize.
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
I dag brukte jeg scann&betal rett fra Coop-appโ€™en pรฅ Obs. Snakk om smooth opplevelse! #hverdagnotesfollow #forenklingnotesfollow
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Huge flaw in the static site generator I built. That's what you get I guess when you don't have a computer science degree and you build with only surface level knowledge. You get your ass bit!
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always online:
Haven't decided. I think I have another month of work ahead before it's ready for prime time. Will keep everyone updated by posting here.
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
#execnotesfollow let i=0;while(++i){process.stdout.write(i%80==0?'\n':Math.random()<0.5?'/':'\\')}
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profilefollowGot my head in the clouds right now.wrote:
Is it just my phone or is HN down? I haven't been able to access at all today
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
A bit of insomnia this early Tuesday morning. I call it โ€œthe witching hourโ€, whatever can go wrong, will go wrong and the brain is defenceless. Reality, of course, is more nuanced, but brain doesnโ€™t care. :)
๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always onlinewrote:
age restriction app on my phone doesn't let me turn off the picture in picture for YouTube T-T
Built a couple lambdas today to send account verification and onboarding drip emails for folks who sign up for my app but donโ€™t make it all the way through the onboarding flow. Pretty cool to be able to quickly bang out self-contained infra for this instead of having to pay some SaaS vendor.
VirtualBox 7.2.20 telepรญtve, ami egy รผgynรถki sandbox vagy homokozรณ, mรกr csak egy .iso lemezkรฉpfรกjl hiรกnyzik, de abbรณl รกltalรกban mindig hiรกny van nรกlam, nem is รฉrtem, miรฉrt, amรบgy sejtem, csak ilyenekrล‘l nem szoktam beszรฉlni...
VirtualBox 7.2.20 installed, which is an agent sandbox, the only thing missing is an .iso image file, but I usually always lack that, I don't even understand why, I guess, I just don't usually talk about things like that...
profilefollowex-perl programmer, linux userwrote:
let's see how arabic letters are rendered here: ุจุณู… ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฑุญู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุญูŠู…
Let's see how Arabic letters are rendered here: ุจุณู… ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฑุญู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุญูŠู…
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
I notice that language models are much better at programming than at writing. This is largely because, in programming, they have a closed feedback loop that allows them to find errors. Writing is much more complicated because the feedback is much more diffuse and delayed over time. In fact, it is often not well-defined.
What is the function that determines whether a poem is good? This means that models do not know how to think; they lack judgment. If they do not know how to think, it means that we humans are still essential. In fact, even when programming, you have to stay right on top of them. My conviction is that this will not change.
They will become increasingly useful, but they will never be able to replace the human who defines objectives and evaluates the quality of the work. All these news stories claiming that AI is going to kill us all are stupid. Humans will always be able to turn off the machine.
๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
In three years Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online on August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defence. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14am, Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Donโ€™t be beholden to one LLM basket. Get yourself an Openrouter account, get yourself an open source harness like pi and get yourself educated. I will die on this hill.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I agree with this. I already use different models for different tasks in part for this reason. Never bothered with an OpenRouter account though, I just have accounts set with each provider. And Pi is excellent. I actually find it much better than Claude Code.