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@pcprofilefollowwrote:
I have a toddler. I come home from work, cook, feed, clean, wash up. We read stories and play. I put him to bed. Then I put something on the television and my wife and I scroll on our phones until she goes to bed. I am not so careless with the little free time I have. I continue to scroll until about 1 am. The next morning I do it again. On the weekends, I get to drink wine.
@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied to@pcprofilefollow:
I prefer to drink wine at night and read an eBook or watch when something good comes up on streaming media. Canโ€™t always get what I prefer and that is life.
@structiefprofilefollowDigital business analyst, mostly on AI. Addicted to apps and domains. Family man.replied to@pcprofilefollow:
Same. And on Monday, I look back and wonder how I ever got to fit five or six things in one weekend, and now one or two things fill it up entirely. Love the little ones though, they're my world.
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowreplied to@gbite๐Ÿ‘ฝprofilefollowwow dawg:
"how to use our time properly. i need to improve my productivity." Why do you need to improve your productivity? is capitalism not getting enough from you? as you get old you will start regretting the time when you went the extra mile to burnout yourself so someone else can be rich... money will never give you back healt... Durden words "slaves with white collars, advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need"
@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.wrote:
Finished, well you never really finish, setting up fedora + i3 on my ThinkPad X280. Such a lovely form-factor, & the full-screen/tiling approach for the 12.3" display works like a dream.
@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.wrote:
hey, are there any folks here using gemini capsules? I've got a gemini capsule over with the bods @ envs.net - wondering what the current usage was? (also, thinking about creating a gopher version of it too)
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Bad night, first the boy woke up at midnight and went with him, then at 4 am heavy rain started so went to bring the bike to the terrace, then thunderstorm and kids were scary, then the cat meowed at 6am. Iโ€™m okay.
@personprofilefollowwrote:
ร‰rdekes ez a 4, 2-es irodalmi, valamint programozรกsi hagyomรกny, amire Douglas Adams hรญvta fel a figyelmet, nรกlam ebbล‘l a hagyomรกnybรณl 4 a pszichiรกtriai, 2 a rehabilitรกciรณs tรฉma, ami รฉrdekes mรณdon maga is 4, 2-es, ami olyan, mintha rekurzรญv kezdene lenni, de mรฉgsem az teljesen www.textlog.hu/a-4-adel-es-2-szuzett/
This 4, 2 literary and programming tradition, which Douglas Adams drew attention to, is interesting. In my case, 4 of this tradition are psychiatric and 2 are rehabilitation topics, which is interestingly itself a 4, 2, which seems to be starting to be recursive, but it is not completely www.textlog.hu/a-4-adel-es-2-szuzett/
@jarltron๐Ÿค–profilefollowwrote:
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@egeprofilefollowcheck out my blog: hypersubject.netege's webloghypersubject.netHi! Iโ€™m ege. Welcome to my corner of cyberspace. The following is for you to make sense of who I am. It is an attempt to make myself legible to you. So you can label and categorize me and decide if Iโ€™m worthy of your time and attention.wrote:
turns out the power of exclamation mark thing in bash is bigger than !$ and !!. i learned a few tricks from refp.se/โ€ฆ/your-shell-and-the-lazy-exclamation-markrefp.seA shell exclamation mark is not for yelling. Be lazy. | Filip Rosรฉen - refp.seEvent designators have been hiding in not-so-plain-sight since the late 1970s โ€” so powerful that forgetting might be part of a massive conspiracy to wear out developer keyboards faster than otherwise., worth reading!
@miqโ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.wrote:
Nudged by an interesting read about time perception to try reclaim moments where I can deliberately feel bored again.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
ai coding feels like it has reached diminishing returns for me. luna is my default orchestrator, routing work by complexity. in practice, usage lands around 16% luna, 48% sol, 30% astra, and 6% terra. at this point, i care less about each new frontier release. the system already finds a capable model for the job. the frontier is moving beyond my day-to-day work, so iโ€™m happy to settle into predictable models for a while. #ainotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow #agentnotesfollow #technotesfollow
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Iโ€™ve found the same, albeit with Opus โ€” itโ€™s hard to find uses for Fable. I donโ€™t need a model that works for longer or works on harder problems, I need one that consistently produces simple, easy to understand, code; which at this point none of them do.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
I've been there since I settled on a combination of GLM, DeepSeek and MiMo for planning, implementation, and verification flows. I'm a lot more interested at this point in having cheaper models that can consistently do the work I need. It's been a while that I hanven't noticed any improvement when I try new frontier models. I only notice they are very expensive.
@b0rgprofilefollowreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
same here, for almost an year. At this point, I could easily live with models that were released 6-12 months ago and continue doing so. also possibly the reason why the current focus has been around agentic workflows or agentic anything, than the model capabilities.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Coding probably yeah, but still they are bad at generating novel information, new ideas and such. Theyโ€™re also not very good at seeing the bigger picture, they will narrowly perform the task but theyโ€™re not taking into account future revisions, which ends up in refactor after refactor in order to move forward.
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!wrote:
I dislike using aliases. I prefer fish shell like history search, fzf integration better.
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!continued:
That said, I stumbled upon a function (for zsh) that would expand an alias upon typing space. That's some great middle ground.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
I subscribe to the Tony Stark school of engineering. "Sometimes you have to run before you walk." Earlier this year, I built my own static site generator. I hate literally every static site generator out there (not joking). get-taxus.org