I wonder if there is a way, sane and friendly way, to prove that a piece of software is only accessing whatever it claims it will access.
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Like network addresses or file system access. I want to be able to claim in my software that it only touches this or that file and I can prove it
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:I believe the sanest and friendliest way would be for it to be open-source so it can be audited.
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creator of textlog:I know, and that's totally fine, but it is not always friendly. I guess an agent can "audit" it.
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:Just the fact that it can be audited plus your word is enough. Noone would need to look any further, because they could if they had to.
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creator of textlog:I think a trusted piece of software such as your operating system should be in charge of managing permissions. For example, I believe with Wayland on gnome you no longer need to promise you aren't secretly taking screenshots of the whole monitor and shipping it somewhere because to do that Wayland requires you to get user permission.
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I was thinking along the same line, but then if it is not a gated system - thereโs always ways for software to sidestep these - just going down to a lower level.
The other issue I have is if the system or software asks or notifies all the time - for every tiny user action!
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I have tiktok and instagram on this phone and both of them have no notification permissions. I'd rather miss all notifications for these apps than be bothered unnecessarily. it can wait until I open the app ๐คฃ
yes, it should be gated in the sense studying locally needs to be root, not in the sense that the apple app store or Google play store reviewers need to review each update.
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creator of textlog I got weirdly rate limited for one hour and the experience was extremely odd. No site link worked. None. I was trying to reply and halfway I wanted to fact check something, copied my half finished message and went back a page, checked and went ahead to click reply or something and boom! Rate limited. #metanotesfollow
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creator of textlog I got weirdly rate limited for one hour and the experience was extremely odd. No site link worked. None. I was trying to reply and halfway I wanted to fact check something, copied my half finished message and went back a page, checked and went ahead to click reply or something and boom! Rate limited. #metanotesfollow@stagas๐คธprofilefollow
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:Sorry about that. It was an over-eager protection I put for crawlers visiting links with huge backlinks. I removed it now and thinking of other solutions. cc @evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineer, trail runner, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeowners
Now when you hit the heuristic it will show you a captcha to prove youโre not a bot and that will whitelist you for the day.
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creator of textlog:That is nice, but would advise to possibly remove all menu links from that 404 page.
These will auto-delete in 3 days:
ibb.co/6RB3GwCrImgBBIMG 7531 hosted at ImgBBImage IMG 7531 hosted on ImgBB
ibb.co/LX1NLrv7ImgBBIMG 7530 hosted at ImgBBImage IMG 7530 hosted on ImgBB
The first one shows
textlog.cc with no styles (opened in a private session), since those got rate-limited, I guess, while the second one shows the page while I had things cached.@stagas๐คธprofilefollow
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:ouch! I'm not sure, I can't see anything weird in the logs. I've hardened the path so it will try to keep what you've typed in case of a server failure plus also added username tracking in the logs to make my life easier next time. Let's see!
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ Sid Meyersreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:Each time something similar has happened to me, I have checked the repo and, sure enough, have seeing changes that merit an application restart. ๐
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ Sid Meyers:The server auto-restarts on push and there is a small 2-5s downtime, but I doubt it was that, my guess is the OpenAI moderation endpoint failed and we weren't guarding that case. Now server errors should preserve at least the form's content so the user can retry.
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:Implemented.
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creator of textlog:โค๏ธ love it. This is too fast of a feedback loop. It feels like you are having your finger on the trigger!
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:Haha, yeah, I will link it here again, I'm using the Chaos model and I'm taking users' requests to be "Urgent" immediately, meaning that's what I'm solving before any other task.
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creator of textlog:If you didnโt mention it, I wouldnโt have realised there was a way to collapse threads. Pretty cool!
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:i like things being as fast as possible. link?
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creator of textlog:Unfortunately no. Just starting it. Got the proof of concept loading a dir with its sub-dirs then rendering on the GPU in textures silky smooth. 1.7mb executable, but will need to level up to SDL and that will double the size I think.
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