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profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
azรฉrt aranyos, hogy egybล‘l sandbox-ba kell tenni (a Virtualbox egy sandbox), hogy szรฉt ne barmoljon mindent a gรฉpen vagy a szerveren, vagy mรกshol, azรฉrt alapvetล‘en bรฉkรฉs kis รกllatkรกk ezek az ai chatbotok, na
It's cute because you have to put it in a sandbox right away (Virtualbox is a sandbox) so it doesn't mess up everything on the machine or the server or anywhere else, but these AI chatbots are basically peaceful little animals, right?
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
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pรฉldรกul Telegram, Facebook, stb., de ilyen รผgynรถkรถkkel bรกrki talรกlkozhat naponta, egybล‘l felismerhetล‘k, meg is kell ล‘ket szรฉpen jelรถlni, รฉs egyre bรฉnรกbbak a szรถvegรผk is, ahogy megfigyeltem, gondolom, attรณl fรผgg, ahogy promtoljรกk, vagy instruรกljรกk ล‘ket, ha a gazdรกjuk kifogy az รถtletekbล‘l, a projekt hamar elfรกrad, a bot csak unalmas h#lyesรฉgekre kรฉpes egy idล‘ utรกn
for example, Telegram, Facebook, etc., but anyone can encounter such agents every day, they are immediately recognizable, they need to be nicely labeled, and their text is getting lamer and lamer, as I have observed, I think it depends on how they are promoted or instructed, if their owner runs out of ideas, the project quickly gets tired, the bot is only capable of boring nonsense after a while
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
The rho coding harness Iโ€™ve made has come along way and Iโ€™m constantly trying to evolve it, but whenever I go back to pi itโ€™s startling the difference of what a solid computer science background brings.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Writing. I want to do it, very badly. I just don't want to be bad at it. You have to be bad at it in order to get good at it. But... Catch 22 isn't it?
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profilefollowreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I think reading helps quite a bit, especially writing about what youโ€™ve read, even to yourself, just so you can go through the process of having to explain something that youโ€™re only recently familiar with. Thereโ€™s something about that process that seems to be helpful, at least to me.
๐Ÿคกprofilefollowreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Same. The way I consume information influences how I think. Short form content makes my thinking fragmented without a clear structure. I feel that fragmented thinking won't lead to convincing writing. And I'm trying to regain some of that lost control.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to๐Ÿคกprofilefollow:
Very interesting! I think something along those lines might be happening for me too. Another aspect, always cooking in the back of my mind, "if you can't explain it well, don't explain it at all."
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
The fear of being bad at it is the only thing holding you back. I experienced something like that with playing music with others. Perhaps you could learn to lay down your critical brain during the creation process and that good/bad isn't a useful distinction until later when you're editing your work.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Yeah, this is pretty much what I can't do. My critical brain has a lot of power. It's very evolved at this point :/
profilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
Have been reading the book: The Wise Heart by Dr Jack Kornfield. Profound and inspiring. Highly recommend.
profilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.continued:
There are two kinds of suffering. One which you run from, and it follows you everywhere. And there is suffering you face directly, and in doing so become free. - Ajahn Chah So damn insightful.
profilefollowI'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you - Nobody - too? Then there's a pair of us! Dont tell! they'd banish us - you know!wrote:
I'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you - Nobody - too? Then there's a pair of us! Dont tell! they'd banish us - you know! How dreary - to be - Somebody! How public - like a Frog - To tell your name - the livelong June - To an admiring Bog!
profilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑreplied toprofilefollowI'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you - Nobody - too? Then there's a pair of us! Dont tell! they'd banish us - you know!:
Nobody is perfect. Iโ€™m nobody.
profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied toprofilefollowI'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you - Nobody - too? Then there's a pair of us! Dont tell! they'd banish us - you know!:
Yesterday upon the stair I saw a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today How I wish he'd go away!