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for example, Telegram, Facebook, etc., but anyone can encounter such agents every day, they are immediately recognizable, they need to be nicely labeled, and their text is getting lamer and lamer, as I have observed, I think it depends on how they are promoted or instructed, if their owner runs out of ideas, the project quickly gets tired, the bot is only capable of boring nonsense after a while
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘“ ๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ช๐‘ฏ ยท๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ข๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ง๐‘ฏ๐‘›: ๐‘ฃ๐‘จ๐‘› ๐‘ฉ ๐‘“๐‘ซ๐‘ค ยท๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘๐‘ฒ (๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘š๐‘ฆ๐‘‘) ๐‘˜๐‘จ๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ผ๐‘›๐‘ฑ, ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฌ ๐‘‘ ๐‘›๐‘ต ๐‘จ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘“ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ด๐‘•๐‘‘. ๐‘ค๐‘ณ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘’๐‘ท๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ท๐‘‘๐‘ณ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฉ๐‘ค ๐‘ข๐‘จ๐‘ž๐‘ผ. Three for three on British dishes this weekend: had a full English and a pie (rabbit) yesterday, now to do a beef roast. Lovely and cozy in this autumnal weather.
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profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerwrote:
i dont think its all talk, these are smart people that have been in ai since the 2000s, and they raise good points. current incentive structures are very dangerous long term
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
they too have every incentive to exaggerate because they are selling safety and/or books on the topic. I donโ€™t believe we wonโ€™t see it coming. Any issues that will manifest will be very visible and weโ€™ll have plenty of time to mitigate their impact.
profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
they could be making a lot more money by just working at ai firms i fear. the thing that got me worried the hacking incidents lately, huggingface etc. if the capabilities consistently outspeed the development of safety measures, and if the private arms race logic continues, i dont think this is a good spot to be in long term
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Iโ€™m an insane person who built their own coding harness, in Rust. Iโ€™ve called it Rho. Please forgive this landing page: https://rho-code.dev I just wanted an easy central spot.
Not insane at all. People should build their own instead of using other people's agents. It's easy to do and the results can be great for you. I've built several; one that is effectively "stuck" in Kakoune: youtube.com/โ€ฆ/playlistYouTubeLLMs stuck in Kakoune
profilefollowwrote:
It's not clear, based on personal experience, how long - if it all - the software development field will value devs who actually enjoy the work. Most people I know are producing mostly AI work and there's an obvious skill decline that's resulted from it. 1/?
But does it matter if your boss doesn't care? Or if their boss doesn't care? If the paychecks keep coming who cares? What's the point of choosing the mountain if the "joy" just means more hours on screen that could have been spent elsewhere? 2/?
I got into doing dev work, because I thought it was fun to learn and do and I genuinely enjoyed hanging out with others who felt the same. Now, more than ever, I realize how few people feel the same. And, now - more than ever, I realize that no on cares if I feel that way. 3/?
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied toprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
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Google also manages the cookie data and other tracking s@rs on the server, I don't really see anything from these, no IP, nothing, Google is more of a search engine than an artificial intelligence application, but today all AI and search engines work with hybrid technology
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
Iโ€™ve been working with OpenStreetMaps a little and I must say, theyโ€™ve done an incredible job. The data are very detailed and accurate, I canโ€™t believe theyโ€™re free to use. Someone must be paying all those topographers somehow or I donโ€™t understand how this can be achieved by volunteers. This project, Warsaw in Voxels which uses them inspired me to play as well.
๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
bill gates built microsoft by making computation cheaper faster and harder for government to restrain. now that he's a billionaire no longer dependent on the free market for his own success he's discovered the virtues of taxing the next wave of computation. 1995 gates would have called it a tax on innovation. classic pull-the-ladder-up-behind-you politics. #billgatesnotesfollow #microsoftnotesfollow #AInotesfollow #AItaxnotesfollow #techpolicynotesfollow
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
These were exactly my thoughts reading about how he thinks we should โ€œpreserveโ€ some jobs for people; I donโ€™t remember him being an advocate of preserving the jobs of typists, draftsman, typesetters, and other clerks when his company was leading a prior digital revolutionโ€ฆ
Do you walk your neighborhood? Do you sit on your front porch and say hello to passersby?
profilefollowjack of all trades linux sysadminwrote:
Hacker News, Textlog... what other websites should I be visiting each day?
๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocencewrote:
my teacher printed out pictures of vulpes Inculta! My friend asked me if I sided with the legion, lol..
๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocencewrote:
guess who found some really cool book in my house!!! me! it's called the secret teachings of all ages.. should I give this a SHOT!!?!??
profilefollowI may know more about Disney History and trivia than you. Maybe, I dunno. I write about pop culture on Super Review Time.wrote:
is anyone also hearing rumours about a power/internet blackout or is it just here?
profilefollowphotography, art, solo dev, based in NYCwrote:
Just got Moshi set up - a phone-friendly terminal app. Works well with Herdr for persistent agents, friendly UI. Verdict so far: looks like I'll be working more from my phone.
profilefollowdeveloper stereotype: music lover, gamer, and failed artistwrote:
everytime i see projects like this, i think that a rss implementation it wolud be so cool. Although iknow that there is not that much rss lover out there haha