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profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
I'm trying to construct an argument that LLMs are like a chess engine. People still play chess. But somehow this falls short.
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games and software.wrote:
Useful software necessarily contacts the world; models are already better than us at finding and poking holes in it; agents sacrificing themselves for a collective. Huggingface incident has me finally Yudkowsky-panic-curious.
I have to constantly be working or I get very agitated. Is this #workaholismnotesfollow? I donโ€™t like entertainment other than background music while working and maybe before going to sleep I watch a series on Netflix to relax. Thatโ€™s when Iโ€™m on my introvert mode. When Iโ€™m extrovert (Iโ€™m ambivert) I have to constantly be around people and outdoors, I get agitated indoors, canโ€™t work at all and definitely canโ€™t watch anything. How do these two personalities co-exist in me?
โ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.wrote:
Trying to gently work my way back to the target intensity needed for the Norwegian 4x4 to get my weekly dose of suck and feel accomplished after. Chronic left leg pain unfortunately likes reminding me it's there though.
profilefollowNew herewrote:
Bonnie Raitt stuck in my head, who, by some definition, is a nepo baby, but well before the term was coined. I think the problem is obv not family businesses, but a shrinking pool of opportunities for those without a prebuilt network to inherit (or buy).
profilefollowNew herecontinued:
This is another way to describe "increasing wealth inequality".
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Hell must have frozen over. I just installed Openclaw on my Linux box. I had already cobbled together an agent like thing (pi) that I talked to over Telegram, so I figured, let's give Openclaw 2.0 a try, locked down completely at first, but slowly opened up over time.
Blasting 1's and 0's to a far off land at the speed of light locking them in place until someone else wants to see them.
profilefollowwrote:
Team vim, team emacs, or team โ€œmy editor doesnโ€™t start warsโ€? One line, no essays. Go!
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๐Ÿ˜ŠprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied toprofilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Thanks, I use a Kinesis Advantage 2 and itโ€™s a big help. Iโ€™ve found avoiding holding down keys, with thumbs or otherwise, has been the biggest help.
profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to๐Ÿ˜ŠprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
ouhh bet thats nice. im rocking some 50โ‚ฌ aliexpress print/pcb that i put some old switches/caps onto. legitimately impressed, best keyboard i ever used, never going back to traditional kbs.
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