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@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingswrote:
Looking for a new daily-driver #scriptingnotesfollow language. Criteria:
  • interpreted (e.g. can use #!/bin/bang)
  • batteries-included stdlib (json, subprocesses, fs, etc.)
  • not sh, not perl, not python, not javascript
Shortlist:
Any other #recommendationsnotesfollow? #Codenotesfollow #Devnotesfollow #Technotesfollow
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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I use GoalCodeberg.orggoalGoal, an embeddable scripting array language., extended with ariGitHubGitHub - semperos/ari: Ari: Goal language extended with SQL and moreAri: Goal language extended with SQL and more. Contribute to semperos/ari development by creating an account on GitHub. as my daily driver. Since it's implemented in Go, it's straightforward to extend with anything from Go's standard library (or third-party ecosystem) that isn't already incorporated. If you haven't used an array language before, then you get the added bonus of learning a ton about an interesting, powerful area of programming.
@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingsreplied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Not familiar with array languages but it looksโ€ฆ interesting. Thanks for the suggestion.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I sometimes use V scriptGitHubv/doc/docs.md at master ยท vlang/vSimple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io - vl..., but I use V-lang as well. It is kind-of interpreted. Iโ€™ve never heard of rye. Looks nice.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
It does not, but fakes it well, since it is fast and compares built binary with script mtime to automatically recompile. The downside of using it is that you end up with a binary, but the upside is that it is blazing fast.
@highkeyprofilefollowwrote:
'wade in the water.' isn't this the challenge of being 'ahead'? so many of us are waist deep in the same sea, it's hard to see what's in front of us vs. what's behind us. then we see the yacht boys sail by with their new masters, splashing us in their wake. then we grumble amongs
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
๐‘ฒ๐‘ฅ ๐‘ฉ๐‘•๐‘ฟ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฆ๐‘™ ยท๐‘–๐‘ฑ๐‘๐‘พ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฏ๐‘ช๐‘‘ ๐‘•๐‘ฉ๐‘๐‘น๐‘‘๐‘ฉ๐‘› ๐‘“ ๐‘ท๐‘‘๐‘ด-๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘ฏ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ค๐‘ฑ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ. Iโ€™m assuming #Shaviannotesfollow is not supported for auto-translation.
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Hmm, maybe Iโ€™ll sometimes post in Shavian anyway and translate myself. Itโ€™s a skill Iโ€™m trying to practice but rarely otherwise write brief enough notes to be so inclined. ๐‘ฃ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฅ, ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฑ๐‘š๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฒ๐‘ค ๐‘•๐‘ณ๐‘ฅ๐‘‘๐‘ฒ๐‘ฅ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘๐‘ด๐‘•๐‘‘ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ยท๐‘–๐‘ฑ๐‘๐‘พ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ง๐‘ฏ๐‘ฆ๐‘ข๐‘ฑ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘ฏ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ค๐‘ฑ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฒ๐‘•๐‘ง๐‘ค๐‘“. ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘ฉ ๐‘•๐‘’๐‘ฆ๐‘ค ๐‘ฒ๐‘ฅ ๐‘‘๐‘ฎ๐‘ฒ๐‘ฆ๐‘™ ๐‘‘ ๐‘๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘’๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘š๐‘ณ๐‘‘ ๐‘ฎ๐‘บ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ ๐‘ณ๐‘ž๐‘ผ๐‘ข๐‘ฒ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ฒ๐‘‘ ๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ๐‘“ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘ณ๐‘“ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ด๐‘‘๐‘• ๐‘‘ ๐‘š ๐‘•๐‘ด ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘’๐‘ค๐‘ฒ๐‘ฏ๐‘›.
@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always onlinewrote:
Maurizio Lombardi is my only reason now. I have to move forward
@gikkmanprofilefollowwrote:
I am a remote worker, and has been for 4 years now. It works great. But the owner of the office I've been renting have sold the building, and the new owner has different visions. I could work from home, but my 3 month daughter is a screamer. I had a great, cheap deal. All alternatives I find is like 3x the price.
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
A company called Spacious triedEater SFNew Start-Up Turns Popular Restaurants Into Coworking Spaces By DayPlus SFโ€™s beer, bourbon, and hummus empire expands and Eaterโ€™s holiday gift guide to do this with restaurant spaces that arenโ€™t used during the day. Always seemed like a good idea to me, but they went under.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Most of programs use key chords, like Cmd-Shift-G, Ctrl-Alt-N and so on, you need to remember and press awkwardly several keys at once. #Emacsnotesfollow uses key sequences, C-c then k then p then l. If I forget after C-c k p then press C-h and help appears.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@needfish๐Ÿ˜Œprofilefollowwrote:
It was only yesterday that I clicked on a Translate button to read a Japanese post. Today I see a Chinese post with English translation right below. Beautiful stuff.
@edwin๐Ÿ˜ฌprofilefollowwrote:
met someone at a book club I went to for the first time today and invited them over for an evening bowl, cool to talk tech to another techy especially one familiar with llms at not just a surface level
@personprofilefollowwrote:
Ubuntu telepรญtรฉse a VirtualBoxba rendben megtรถrtรฉnt. Mรกr csak egy รผgynรถkรถt kell bele fogni, รฉs mรกris kรฉsz az "AI torture chamber", ahogy a Futurism รญrja... Mondjuk, elsล‘ kรถrben mรฉg nem รญgy fogalmaznรฉk...
Ubuntu has been successfully installed in VirtualBox. All you need to do is add an agent and you have an "AI torture chamber", as Futurism describes it... Let's just say I wouldn't put it that way at first...
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
Maybe it'll end up being a case of stated vs revealed preference, but I feel like Apple's really missing the moment with their latest products. People by and large want less tech in their lives right now, not screens and AI stuff everywhere.
@robbyprofilefollowphotography, art, solo dev, based in NYCwrote:
#ainotesfollow Installed Hermes Desktop and starting to build out my team of bots. My experience with Hermes so far has been great: it keeps surprising me by being what i need it to be ... but I'll reserve a final judgement until after a proper period of use.