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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always onlinewrote:
Maurizio Lombardi is my only reason now. I have to move forward
@jagsprofilefollowwrote:
"No hay nada mรก i inmune que el que todo lo perdiรณ"
"There is nothing more immune than he who has lost everything."
@jgprofilefollowNew herewrote:
Quebec City is pretty amazing. Excellent food, tons to see and do, surrounded by nature, mountains, islands. My kind of place.
@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@jgprofilefollowNew here:
Do you live there or are just visiting? I remember feeling so at home there as a kid. I never kept my French up so I don't think I could ever move there.
@jgprofilefollowNew herereplied to@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.:
Visiting, for the first time. It's about a 9 hour drive from home so we've never made the trip, but so worth it. Went to Ile d'Orleans yesterday, just... so quiet and beautiful. Seems a bit of a paradise, haven't even made it up to the natl park(s) yet. My French is coming back a little each day, made it all the way through the coffee order just now :)
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@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
NIH syndrome? I am guilty of it too. I love implementing things from scratch, you learn a lot by doing so and you get to own the codebase end-to-end, so no surprises and fighting around othersโ€™ choices. It can get exhausting too though, in the end I succumb to using off-the-shelf components because my primary goals move at a higher level.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I don't see much point in trying to build software at a "higher level", like whole products and services. I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. Hopefully in time I'll be able to contribute to the foundational bits. You're right, it does get exhausting. At some point you just want to rebuild everything, which is not possible.
@unsayprofilefollow#minneapolisnotesfollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. When I wrote an HTTP sever (albeit HTTP/1.1), I learned how primitive the HTTP protocol its magic became a skill. It is freeing understanding how things work and allows me to choose where to spend time with more intention.
@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
bill gates built microsoft by making computation cheaper faster and harder for government to restrain. now that he's a billionaire no longer dependent on the free market for his own success he's discovered the virtues of taxing the next wave of computation. 1995 gates would have called it a tax on innovation. classic pull-the-ladder-up-behind-you politics. #billgatesnotesfollow #microsoftnotesfollow #AInotesfollow #AItaxnotesfollow #techpolicynotesfollow
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
These were exactly my thoughts reading about how he thinks we should โ€œpreserveโ€ some jobs for people; I donโ€™t remember him being an advocate of preserving the jobs of typists, draftsman, typesetters, and other clerks when his company was leading a prior digital revolutionโ€ฆ
@derblitzmann๐Ÿ’€profilefollow10+ years Seattle based software engineer.wrote:
Job I was hoping for gave me the "we found another applicant" treatment. I don't begrudge them for that, since I know I had a 'less than adequate initial coding interview. But still, it stings and sucks. Hopefully my other interviews yield better results...
@robbyprofilefollowphotography, art, solo dev, based in NYCwrote:
Just got Moshi set up - a phone-friendly terminal app. Works well with Herdr for persistent agents, friendly UI. Verdict so far: looks like I'll be working more from my phone.
@personprofilefollowwrote:
okรฉ, megdumรกltatok, a hรฉten telepรญtem a kis virtuรกlis รกllatseregletem mellรฉ (webszerver, mechanikus 1. generรกciรณs robotkezdemรฉny, led kijelzล‘ szalag) az elsล‘ ai agent chatbotomat, egyelล‘re Virtualbox Ubuntu alรก
Okay, you've got me, this week I'm installing my first AI agent chatbot next to my little virtual animal herd (web server, mechanical 1st generation robot initiative, LED display strip), for now under Virtualbox Ubuntu
@b0rgprofilefollowwrote:
weekend plans are:
  1. attend to the pending work that I am avoiding around home
  2. improve my understanding of using agents in claude code and codex cli
  3. dig into navier stokes equations from the first principles (I am excited for this)
@_torayuriprofilefollowi create thingswrote:
Inspired by two projects of github:schildep I start to explore what can be expressed in Lean and make coding agents implement and prove the implementation at the same time.
@_torayuriprofilefollowi create thingscontinued:
The two projects of github:schildep are "3d mesh intersection" and "multipolygon intersection". I can try "Voronoi diagram generation" as a starter.
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearwrote:
๐Ÿ‰ #execnotesfollow let N=6,D0=[0,1,0,-1],D1=[1,0,-1,0],s=[],g={},d=x=y=xa=xb=ya=yb=0; for(let n=0;n<N;n++){s=s.concat([1]).concat(s.map(x=>!x).reverse())} for(let i=0;i<s.length;i++) { x<xa && (xa=x);y<ya && (ya=y);x>xb && (xb=x);y>yb && (yb=y); let t=s[i]?1:-1,e=(d+t+4)%4; g[x]||(g[x]={}); g[x][y]=g[x][y]?"โ”ผ":"โ”Œโ”โ””โ”˜"[(t*(D0[d]+D0[e])>0?0:2)+(t*(D1[d]+D1[e])>0?0:1)]; x+=D0[e];y+=D1[e];d=e; } for(j=yb;j>=ya;j--) { let u=""; for(i=xa;i<=xb;i++){u+=(g[i][j]||"ยท")} console.log(u); }
ยทโ”Œโ”โ”Œโ”ยทยทยทยทยทยทยท โ”Œโ”˜โ””โ”ผโ”˜ยทยทยทยทโ”Œโ”ยท โ””ยทยทโ””โ”โ”Œโ”ยทยทยทโ””โ” ยทยทยทโ”Œโ”ผโ”ผโ”˜ยทยทยทโ”Œโ”˜ ยทยทยทโ””โ”ผโ”ผโ”โ”Œโ”โ”Œโ”ผโ” ยทยทยทโ”Œโ”ผโ”˜โ””โ”ผโ”ผโ”˜โ””โ”˜ ยทยทยทโ””โ”ผโ”ยทโ””โ”ผโ”ยทยท ยทยทยทยทโ””โ”˜ยทยทโ””โ”˜ยทยท
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearcontinued:
OK, so you only get 10 lines of output. (I tried to get ChatGPT to write this program but it kept messing up, so I wrote it by hand.)
@chenxiangprofilefollowwrote:
The essence of aligning large LLM models is basically to conform to the existing social order. ChatGPT respects China's order, while China's open-source models, although reluctantly, also tolerate the order in the US. Maybe we can build a revisionist SFT dataset.
@chenxiangprofilefollowwrote:
ๅฏนไบŽๆ•ดไธชไบ’่”็ฝ‘ๅŽ†ๅฒ๏ผŒๆˆ‘ๅฏ่ฏดๅŸบๆœฌไธŠๆ˜ฏไธ€ไธชๆ—่ง‚่€…๏ผŒๆˆ‘ไธ€็›ดๅœจๆถˆ่ดนๅ†…ๅฎน๏ผŒไฝ†ๆ˜ฏๆฒกๆœ‰็”Ÿไบง่ฟ‡ไป€ไนˆๅ†…ๅฎน๏ผŒไบ’่”็ฝ‘ไธŠๆฒกๆœ‰ๆˆ‘็š„็—•่ฟน๏ผŒ่ฟ™ๆ˜ฏๆ„ๅค–ๅŽๆžœ๏ผŒๅ› ไธบไธญๅ›ฝ็š„่บซไปฝๅ’Œๅ†…ๅฎนๆ”ฟ็ญ–
Regarding the entire history of the internet, I can say I've been largely an observer. I've always consumed content, but I haven't produced any. There's no trace of me on the internet, which is an unforeseen consequence due to China's identity and content policies.
@cyanohydrprofilefollowreplied to@chenxiangprofilefollow:
ๆˆ‘ไธๅคชๆ˜Ž็™ฝไธญๅ›ฝ็š„โ€œ้˜ฒ็ซ้•ฟๅŸŽโ€ๆ˜ฏๆ€Žไนˆ่ฟไฝœ็š„ใ€‚ๆฏ”ๅฆ‚่ฏด๏ผŒไฝ ๅˆฐๅบ•ๆ˜ฏๆ€Žไนˆ่ฎฟ้—ฎ่ฟ™ไธช็ฝ‘็ซ™็š„๏ผŸ ๏ผˆๆˆ‘ๆ˜ฏๅœจ้€š่ฟ‡็ฟป่ฏ‘่ฝฏไปถๅ’Œไฝ ไบคๆตใ€‚๏ผ‰
I don't quite understand how China's "Great Firewall" works. For example, how exactly did you access this website? (I'm communicating with you through translation software.)
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