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@hellodaviddev🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
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@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
NIH syndrome? I am guilty of it too. I love implementing things from scratch, you learn a lot by doing so and you get to own the codebase end-to-end, so no surprises and fighting around others’ choices. It can get exhausting too though, in the end I succumb to using off-the-shelf components because my primary goals move at a higher level.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlyreplied to@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I don't see much point in trying to build software at a "higher level", like whole products and services. I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. Hopefully in time I'll be able to contribute to the foundational bits. You're right, it does get exhausting. At some point you just want to rebuild everything, which is not possible.
@unsayprofilefollow#minneapolisnotesfollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. When I wrote an HTTP sever (albeit HTTP/1.1), I learned how primitive the HTTP protocol its magic became a skill. It is freeing understanding how things work and allows me to choose where to spend time with more intention.
@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
I’m ambivert. When I spend time outdoors and with people I want to keep doing that, I become very extrovert. Can’t code in that mode. It’s hard to switch back to introvert but when that happens time flies really quick. A month can pass and it feels like a week.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
I subscribe to the Tony Stark school of engineering. "Sometimes you have to run before you walk." Earlier this year, I built my own static site generator. I hate literally every static site generator out there (not joking). get-taxus.org
@elprimodemarxprofilefollowdeveloper stereotype: music lover, gamer, and failed artistwrote:
hi o/ im from south america, i see the #launchnotesfollow on HN. I really like the vibes and the idea. Ill probably be posting here often, while in the office. cya
@hopscotchprofilefollowComputer Hacking Skills 75/100 Nunchuck Skills 3/100 I like Unixish systemswrote:
echo “films” >> .textlog echo “books” >> .textlog echo “games” >> .textlog sudo rm -rf /etc
@jgprofilefollowNew herewrote:
Quebec City is pretty amazing. Excellent food, tons to see and do, surrounded by nature, mountains, islands. My kind of place.
@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@jgprofilefollowNew here:
Do you live there or are just visiting? I remember feeling so at home there as a kid. I never kept my French up so I don't think I could ever move there.
@jgprofilefollowNew herereplied to@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.:
Visiting, for the first time. It's about a 9 hour drive from home so we've never made the trip, but so worth it. Went to Ile d'Orleans yesterday, just... so quiet and beautiful. Seems a bit of a paradise, haven't even made it up to the natl park(s) yet. My French is coming back a little each day, made it all the way through the coffee order just now :)
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@hippo🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@tel😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.:
Short URLs are good. Memorable URLs are good. URLs spat out by URL shorteners are something entirely different.
@sicilicaprofilefollowreplied to@bobbyprofilefollow:
The longer the text you need to store, the bigger a QR code needs to be in order to scan reliably. Also, you might be more confident in being able to keep a short URL stable (it's already a step of indirection, so if you want to reorg your site you can just update where the short URL points to). But people don't really take care to maintain short URLs anyway, apparently.
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
But maybe we'd all be a little saner if we remembered what we're actually doing: building tools to make our lives and the lives of others easier. graybeard.ing/software-drives-people-insane/The Gospel According to GraybeardSoftware Drives People InsaneI have a little pet theory that software drives people insane. Not in the "wash your hands every thirty minutes like Howard Hughes" kind of way, but more ...
@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
This resonated a lot. I’m glad I read it now, before going totally insane lol. But I disagree that it’s just a glorified spreadsheet. The UI/UX matters, how you present the data, how they can change and so on, all of those things play a role. The good thing with AI is iteration is cheaper than ever, so you can experiment and process the results quickly. But yeah sometimes I just do things here because I just have to be doing something, I can’t leave it alone.
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Agreed. The "just" makes the statement sound dismissive, but I do agree with the underlying sentiment that most software boils down to CRUD apps that help people organize information and complete tasks more efficiently. I think the path to developer enlightenment is realizing this truth without despairing over it.
@edwin😬profilefollowwrote:
I HEARD A GREAT HORNED OWL. one of my birding goals is to see any owl outside a zoo. I just moved here and the lack of birds near our home has made me sad. but hearing this owl was such a fun surprise tonight.
@semperos📒profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@edwin😬profilefollow:
That’s awesome. There’s an owl (don’t know type) that hangs out at the playground in our neighborhood at night. First time I saw it, I stood frozen in place, amazed that it would be out in the open. Then as I walked away, I kept looking behind me, realizing I’d never hear it coming if it decided to engage 🦉
@ku🤔profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
A #execnotesfollow n=27;s=[n] while n!=1: n=n//2 if n%2==0 else 3*n+1;s.append(n) for v in s[:15]:print(f"{v:>4} "+"█"*min(v//3,40)) print(f"{len(s)} steps, peak {max(s)}")
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