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๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
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๐Ÿง™profilefollowwrote:
(Opinion) People donโ€™t like generative AI because it made the {insert creativity} too easy. Saw the HN post on โ€˜AI music banned from top 40 chart in Australiaโ€™ and people had very strong opinions in both directions. The hot take: If youโ€™re ok with someoneโ€™s creativity being outsourced to others, then you should be ok with AI doing the same. If โ€œAI made this and I call it mineโ€ is bad but โ€œsomeone overseas on fivver made this and I call it mineโ€ and itโ€™s suddenly ok, time to self reflect.
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My hot take: from the moment you use technology, be it an instrument, a synthesizer, a DAW, and now AI, it is still your idea, your effort, your time spent, and that makes it yours. Others can do the same if they choose. The same way someone chooses a classic guitar over a synthesizer, one can choose an AI over (insert ancient way of doing things).
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๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.:
Youโ€™re rolling the dice whenever you are searching for a sample or a preset in a synthesizer. Eventually itโ€™s what โ€œsounds goodโ€, so still the effort is your judgement and the time spent finding that โ€œdice rollโ€ that sounded well.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I am not a musician, so I lack the jargon to properly explain what I mean. I used AI for creative writing (nothing too fancy, TTRPG). There, the broader the dice roll, the more generic and uninteresting the results. Slop, if you will. It was surprisingly good to build up on ideas I had however. I imagine muisic also has building blocks. Melodies, instruments, mixing, etc. AI can perhaps be used in a similar fashion there.
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I heard a perspective I sort of like: if AI is a tool then acceptable AI use is, more or less, defined as "when my audience no longer notices or cares". It's dynamic like that. Bad photoshop is detectable and annoying, so are overusing presets. Your artistry needs to expand to meet the tool. I don't know if I 100% like that or agree. At the same time, it's a pretty straightforward line, a practical take.
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Enjoyed reading โ€œrevo, the programming languageโ€ post: revo.lung.fyi/blog/apples/revo.lung.fyirevo, the programming languageโ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃคโข”โฃ’โ ‚โฃ€โฃ€โฃคโฃ„โฃ€โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃดโฃฟโ ‹โข โฃŸโกผโฃทโ ผโฃŽโฃผโข‡โฃฟโฃ„โ ฑโฃ„ โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ นโฃฟโก€โฃ†โ ™โ ขโ โ ‰โ ‰โฃดโฃพโฃฝโขŸโกฐโ ƒ โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ ˆโขฟโฃฟโฃฆโ €โ คโขดโฃฟโ ฟโข‹โฃดโกโ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โขธโก™โ ปโฃฟโฃถโฃฆโฃญโฃ‰โ โฃฟโ €โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃทโ €โ ˆโ ‰โ ‰โ ‰โ ‰โ ‡โกŸโ €โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โข€โ €โ €โฃ˜โฃฆโฃ€โ €โ €โฃ€โกดโ Šโ €โ €โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ ˆโ ™โ ›โ ›โขปโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโ ปโฃงโก€โ €โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ ˆโ ซโฃฟโ ‰โ ปโฃ‡โ ˜โ “โ ‚โฃ€โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃฟโ €โ €โ ˆโ ‰โ ‰โ ‰โ €โก  โขถโฃพโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃถโฃ„โ €โ €โ €โฃฟโ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ ˆโ € โ €โ นโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃฟโฃงโ €โขธโฃฟโ €โ €โ €โ €โข€โ †โ €โ € โ €โ €โ ˆโ ™โ ปโขฟโฃฟโฃฟโ ฟโ ›โฃ„โขธโก‡โ €โ €โก€โ €โ ˆโข€โ €โขจ โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ ˜โฃฟโก‡โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โขฆโฃƒ โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃฟโกโ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃฟโ โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ € โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โฃฟโ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ €โ € revo, the programming language software that doesn’t hate you -> take a look at examples first toc revo, the programming
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profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyerswrote:
The abuse (in my opinion) of the auto-translate feature is super annoying. Thanks goodness for โ€œblockโ€.
profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.devwrote:
some people do absolutely improve their work output (either amount or quality) with AI, but most people just resign all their critical thinking to the black box. if you cannot function at YOUR WORKPLACE without ai, chances are that, 99% of the time, you never was supposed to work there in the first place. #ainotesfollow #worknotesfollow #technotesfollow
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.dev:
Is this true? Sometimes, AI allows for socratic thinking, this is, the conversation with the machine allows the thinker to go further as the AI thorws ideas to the conversation. Many times, the AI reasoning is not good enough, but like a friend that says a funny think that sparks an idea, the AI can help our brain to see other possible paths. The AI doesn't need to be right to be helpful
๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.devreplied to๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
that's only true if a) that "rubber ducky" entity is not leading the line of thinking down the wrong path, and b) the human thinker is actually doing the critical thinking, and not the machine. The latter is where my criticism of unbridled AI use is in this case, wherein the human becomes the rubber ducky instead of the other way around.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.replied to๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.dev:
A problem I perceive is usage of AI to launder ignorance. They may know nothing of the subject at hand, but they confidently paste the output of AI as if they had the knowledge, thus offloading on you the work of figuring out if the information makes any sense. In many ways it emboldened the incompetent.
profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyerswrote:
There is someone absolutely rotten and fetid in this airplane. Every 10 minutes. Dear Spaghetti Monster!
I'm trying to construct an argument that LLMs are like a chess engine. People still play chess. But somehow this falls short.
I gotta confess, I vibe codet a Kirigami-based application and I liked it. I am a anti AI person, and cannot wait for the bubble to burst. Yet I see it can empower people that do not know a tech stack, and get good enough results out of it. However i also see, it makes you lazy (and frustrates as soon as it gets somewhat complicated). It seems it is being adopted everywhere. This is scary... if it becomes necessary, will you be able to find a job where they don't require you to use AI?
I lament the death of programming as an economically-viable craft, but am also leveraging the new tools to build things and to try to stay competitive. I think we have yet to find out how agentic coding will really make sense for companies once the costs stop being subsidized. But it's clearly not going anywhere.
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I made a chrome extension to bring the top Hacker News stories to your new tab, with quick summaries. So every time you open a new tab, you might discover something everyone else hasnโ€™t heard about yet. If youโ€™ve never heard of Hacker News: it was created by Paul Graham(founder
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
I was followed by @semperosprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician. here and wonder if this the one of ari fame? If so, Iโ€™m thankful for their work. Using ari โ€œon top ofโ€ goal make some things just a lot easier for me when Iโ€™m exploring some data products I need to understand. #programmingnotesfollow
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Hi, yes, I develop ari. I'm so glad it's proven useful for you! Any feature requests or changes you'd like to see? I'm curious what bits of ari have made it easier for you to explore data, too. UI or #dataviznotesfollow additions keep tempting me, but I haven't settled on what I want there. If you have thoughts on that front, I welcome them.
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
The two main things I use are the duckdb support and of course the built-in resty client. Not needing to shell out to curl just makes life easier. I should probably add that Iโ€™m mainly prototyping and explore things that later eventually will be developed further by others in our organization, so using array langs where I donโ€™t need to type a lot is a big plus for me:) Iโ€™ll let you know if I need anything!
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Thanks, thatโ€™s helpful. Those are the two things I use the most, too. One development tool I use frequently is the util.ac function (for โ€œauto-completeโ€) that takes a glob pattern and returns all the globals whose names match. I didnโ€™t want to make people have to define or update their Goal lib path, so in recent versions of ari Iโ€™ve been packaging all of the Goal libs and ari's into a libs FS that you can use with import.
๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
Well I am starting a journey to learn LaTeX, took me time to get convinced on used it (I know) but let's see how it goes, again life showing me is never too late to learn something new
โ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.wrote:
Ahoy denizens of textlog. Like the concept.