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๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Since you guys are on textlog I think you will find this article and discussion interesting lobste.rs/s/5gcd3t/html_can_doLobstersHTML Can Do That22 comments chrisburnell.com/html-can-do-that/Chris BurnellHTML Can Do ThatHTML has been gobbling up swathes of what used to be JavaScriptโ€™s remit. This page lists a bunch of dynamic functionality that we can now achieve with just HTML. A character count though that still requires JavaScript sadly enough ๐Ÿฅบ
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People post projects/tools/repos on lobsters all the time. From the about page, "as a rule of thumb, self-promo should be less than a quarter of one's stories and comments."
I think if @stagasprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog intends to be an active user of the site henceforth, it'd it should be kosher. Otherwise, one of us who's been active on the site for a while could submit a post.
๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
I need to re wire my brain a bit. Last couple of weeks has been a bit harsh dealing with some issues I had with someone. I started to give it a go a pay a bit more attention to myself, is the second time I get therapy but for some reason this time feel harder.
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
The mental shape of a programming language resurfaces, and my mind craves writing programs in it. Array languages, concatenative, Lisps, Smalltalks.
profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyerswrote:
There is someone absolutely rotten and fetid in this airplane. Every 10 minutes. Dear Spaghetti Monster!
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(Opinion) People donโ€™t like generative AI because it made the {insert creativity} too easy. Saw the HN post on โ€˜AI music banned from top 40 chart in Australiaโ€™ and people had very strong opinions in both directions. The hot take: If youโ€™re ok with someoneโ€™s creativity being outsourced to others, then you should be ok with AI doing the same. If โ€œAI made this and I call it mineโ€ is bad but โ€œsomeone overseas on fivver made this and I call it mineโ€ and itโ€™s suddenly ok, time to self reflect.
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My hot take: from the moment you use technology, be it an instrument, a synthesizer, a DAW, and now AI, it is still your idea, your effort, your time spent, and that makes it yours. Others can do the same if they choose. The same way someone chooses a classic guitar over a synthesizer, one can choose an AI over (insert ancient way of doing things).
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profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I am not a musician, so I lack the jargon to properly explain what I mean. I used AI for creative writing (nothing too fancy, TTRPG). There, the broader the dice roll, the more generic and uninteresting the results. Slop, if you will. It was surprisingly good to build up on ideas I had however. I imagine muisic also has building blocks. Melodies, instruments, mixing, etc. AI can perhaps be used in a similar fashion there.
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I heard a perspective I sort of like: if AI is a tool then acceptable AI use is, more or less, defined as "when my audience no longer notices or cares". It's dynamic like that. Bad photoshop is detectable and annoying, so are overusing presets. Your artistry needs to expand to meet the tool. I don't know if I 100% like that or agree. At the same time, it's a pretty straightforward line, a practical take.
New in agenttop.dev : panels open in your #multiplexernotesfollow. ๐Ÿคนโ€โ™‚๏ธ โ€ข Any panel can now split into its own pane, live, beside the #agentsnotesfollow table. โ€ข Works with all the popular multiplexers: #๐˜๐—บ๐˜‚๐˜…notesfollow, #๐˜‡๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ทnotesfollow, #๐—ช๐—ฒ๐˜‡๐—ง๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—บnotesfollow ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜๐˜†. โ€ข run a panel on its own: agent-top mcp, agent-top slow, agent-top fails, agent-top advice. โž• The # MCP panel also lists the orphaned MCP processes that outlived their agent and are still eating memory.
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
So we can't use em dash anymore โ€” lest we anger the mob. Truth be told though, English teachers have always discouraged em dash overuse because it is a subtle art and very easy to get wrong.
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The funny thing is that in the UK, we don't really use the em dash anyway. We use the hyphen (I guess en dash?) with a space each side. So the em dash has always looked a bit odd to us... ๐Ÿ˜Š
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ˜Šprofilefollow:
There are dashes (-), as well as en dashes (โ€“), and there are em dashes (โ€”), not to miss the mighty center dot (โ€ข) that looks like a perky boob when surrounded by brackets haha
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Just get and read Chicago Manual of Style, or Oxford Style Manual if you so prefer, and youโ€™re all set to use the various dashโ€™es (and many other things).
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Thereโ€™s other dashes to pick if you want to steer clear of the almighty em dash!
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
The anti-slop mob is tiresome. With a careful and appropiate use of ai it is possible to make a lot of interesting stuff. And I hate even more when the mob "profs" that the text is ai using those ai detectros that can't detect ai.
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๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
NIH syndrome? I am guilty of it too. I love implementing things from scratch, you learn a lot by doing so and you get to own the codebase end-to-end, so no surprises and fighting around othersโ€™ choices. It can get exhausting too though, in the end I succumb to using off-the-shelf components because my primary goals move at a higher level.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I don't see much point in trying to build software at a "higher level", like whole products and services. I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. Hopefully in time I'll be able to contribute to the foundational bits. You're right, it does get exhausting. At some point you just want to rebuild everything, which is not possible.
profilefollow#minneapolisnotesfollowreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. When I wrote an HTTP sever (albeit HTTP/1.1), I learned how primitive the HTTP protocol its magic became a skill. It is freeing understanding how things work and allows me to choose where to spend time with more intention.
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowBelieve powerful technology and ease of use can be combined. 46elks founder, an SMS and telephony API for Europe based in Sweden, 15 years in the running.:
woo that was great, happy for him! I had an Amiga too :D remember all that era so this demo resonated a lot
๐Ÿ’€profilefollow10+ years Seattle based software engineer.wrote:
Job I was hoping for gave me the "we found another applicant" treatment. I don't begrudge them for that, since I know I had a 'less than adequate initial coding interview. But still, it stings and sucks. Hopefully my other interviews yield better results...
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Nice! Congrats. Any link to the pub?
thx ^^ its in computational chemistry, knock yourself out: doi.org/10.1021/acs.jpca.6c02038
๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.replied toprofilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Congratulations! Care to share how the road was up to that point?
profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.:
moved to berlin for my bachelors and it took some time to find footing. Im not the best student but I ended up getting lucky to snag a student assistant position by applying/presenting at a summer school (targeted more toward master/phd). then that became my thesis and it dragged quite a long time, bureacracy and supervision and such. But the results were interesting and i learned a ton along the way. Im really happy I yolo applied to that program
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History is written by the people who write stuff down.
๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
These days Ive been learning how to deal with guilt and feeling gulti about things I didn't cause. NGL is hard man, how do you start cntl-z your brains on that