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@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerwrote:
being a student is great but the tasks are really quite boring. ive worked in academia now a little bit and its genuinely much more fun to work on something real, read papers, do experiments and write. Now i have these last few exams to get through and i cant care for them like i used to. #Researchnotesfollow #Sciencenotesfollow
@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.wrote:
Been a bit quiet here the last week or so. Recovering from ill health, at risk of redundancy, and working on side projects. It's been a bit full on. Does anyone make pay check/cheque money from side projects? Can I use my redundancy runway to turn some websites from side hustle to salary money?
@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
Recovering from ill healthHope you’re feeling better now!Does anyone make pay check/cheque money from side projects?That’s the dream, I’ve only made a few hundreds so far. I’ve had a machine gun approach. Shoot as many rounds as possible in the hopes I might hit something. #AInotesfollow has helped immensely in this direction. I’ve done a dozen projects past year and while a few became #viralnotesfollow I’m still not there yet. I’m hopeful though! 😊 #sidehustlenotesfollow #entrepreneurshipnotesfollow
@miq☕profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome ∙ Perth, WA.wrote:
Trying to gently work my way back to the target intensity needed for the Norwegian 4x4 to get my weekly dose of suck and feel accomplished after. Chronic left leg pain unfortunately likes reminding me it's there though.
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@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
I subscribe to the Tony Stark school of engineering. "Sometimes you have to run before you walk." Earlier this year, I built my own static site generator. I hate literally every static site generator out there (not joking). get-taxus.org
@ryuichiprofilefollowwrote:
I like this, it feels like Reddit before what it is now, but I feel like it won’t be long until the internet destroys this place. Until then I’m happy to be here.
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@ryuichiprofilefollow:
My favorite part of classic reddit was the use of elaborate hacks to circumvent the restrictions on custom subreddit CSS. E.g. animated gifs weren't allowed, so people made filmstrip sprites with stepwise animation in such a way as to look exactly the same.
@javisrike🧑‍🚀profilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
ai coding feels like it has reached diminishing returns for me. luna is my default orchestrator, routing work by complexity. in practice, usage lands around 16% luna, 48% sol, 30% astra, and 6% terra. at this point, i care less about each new frontier release. the system already finds a capable model for the job. the frontier is moving beyond my day-to-day work, so i’m happy to settle into predictable models for a while. #ainotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow #agentnotesfollow #technotesfollow
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to@javisrike🧑‍🚀profilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
I’ve found the same, albeit with Opus — it’s hard to find uses for Fable. I don’t need a model that works for longer or works on harder problems, I need one that consistently produces simple, easy to understand, code; which at this point none of them do.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@javisrike🧑‍🚀profilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
I've been there since I settled on a combination of GLM, DeepSeek and MiMo for planning, implementation, and verification flows. I'm a lot more interested at this point in having cheaper models that can consistently do the work I need. It's been a while that I hanven't noticed any improvement when I try new frontier models. I only notice they are very expensive.
@b0rgprofilefollowreplied to@javisrike🧑‍🚀profilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
same here, for almost an year. At this point, I could easily live with models that were released 6-12 months ago and continue doing so. also possibly the reason why the current focus has been around agentic workflows or agentic anything, than the model capabilities.
@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@javisrike🧑‍🚀profilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Coding probably yeah, but still they are bad at generating novel information, new ideas and such. They’re also not very good at seeing the bigger picture, they will narrowly perform the task but they’re not taking into account future revisions, which ends up in refactor after refactor in order to move forward.
@asmund🥷profilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
Super tired today. Must be the fall. Must be the rain. Must be the stretch of 5 meetings back to back the whole work day. Must be everything that’s on my mind. Tomorrow it’s a new day!
@mourningdove🐦profilefollowI'm a small web enthusiast working on my blog and working on myself. themourningdove.bearblog.devreplied to@asmund🥷profilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Ouch. Did you contribute in these meetings?
@asmund🥷profilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to@mourningdove🐦profilefollowI'm a small web enthusiast working on my blog and working on myself. themourningdove.bearblog.dev:
Sure, that’s what I do. I’m not sad for it, it’s actually great to be able to put my very small dent in a few things. But exhausting it is nevertheless.
@mourningdove🐦profilefollowI'm a small web enthusiast working on my blog and working on myself. themourningdove.bearblog.devreplied to@asmund🥷profilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Glad you're still a part of it, it's all performing, really. My meetings were useless. I was the youngest guy there, didn't have much to do but practise my doodling.
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