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@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
The pendulum has swung far in the direction of favouring machine generated content over that from actual people. I wonder when it will swing back?
@moloprofilefollowwrote:
hot take: "consumer #ainotesfollow " doesn't exist. at most it's just better search, but the ai assistants like grokbot or now instinct aren't ever going to be big. new devices and personal agents are DOA
@radiocappy๐Ÿง™profilefollow"The impediment to action advances action, what stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aureliuswrote:
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@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
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@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.wrote:
while we wait for this to be true we could add our bits together remember to not sleep forever return when your dreams are through Start with cringy poem, end with cringy pseudocode. At least it comes naturally.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
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@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
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@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.replied to@nathan๐Ÿฅธprofilefollow:
The book, but actually ideas, like tiny functions and names. Aposd is much deeper book. Hilarious read github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-codeGitHubGitHub - johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code: A discussion between John Ousterhout and Robert Martin about differences between John's book "A Philosophy of Software Design" and Bob's book "Clean Code".A discussion between John Ousterhout and Robert Martin about differences between John's book "A Philosophy of Software Design" and Bob's book "Clean Code". - johnousterh...
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollow:
You've hit the nail on the head. But here's the mindblowing partโ€”writing isn't just about text on a page. It's not about listing a bunch of facts to memorize. Writing is about human connection. And here's where it gets even more fascinating... [parody, not AI]
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowreplied to@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
Some writing yes, If you want to write a post saying why your company has a position yes; if you are documenting an API, does the average swagger page have a human connection factor? If you are in X/FB, is any of your followers a "human connection"?
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowcontinued:
Then, in some spaces, say big corp communications, the terse, direct communication is desired, for example the quarter earning communication? What about software?, what part of your browser gives you the "human connection"?
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollow:
If writing (incl X/FB posts) is meant to convey "some human being did/saw/thought this and found it worth writing about", then AI undermines human connection and will annoy people. API docs, earnings reports, &c never conveyed that to begin with, so nobody will care about AI use.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
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@cowprofilefollowwrote:
code quality is about coupling. coupling is not a technical property of the code bytes. code acquires its meaning in contact with the cultural environment, and coupling is about meaning. two constants with no semantic relationship are nonetheless coupled in pragmatics if they refer to the same domain concept. if your goal is to minimise the time integral of future work, you must understand your domain: it decides which lines will need changing. to carve up a codebase is to carve up the world.
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.wrote:
game dev with LLMs assisting on some of the engine legwork I learned to do over the years is the most fun programming I've had since I was 12 years old plucking away at the public library commodore 64
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
me too, but at the same time i'm enjoying getting things done, otherwise i would get lost in details like bikeshedding naming variables and making the code look pretty, and little would be done.