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@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Certain modes of work are exhausting to the point of not being able to sleep, the mind is so wired.
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
There are many distractions. Much is way too verbose. A calm, quiet and โ€œdistraction lessโ€ experience suits me better. I am not sure my thoughts will fit in 280 characters, but letโ€™s try and see how far that goes.
@jmnufprofilefollowChilling. Hand coding C to feel alivewrote:
Today visiting Zaragoza with an aunt and my mom, I hope to be this willing and capable of moving around for leisure when I'm in my 60s too
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comwrote:
while we wait for this to be true we could add our bits together remember to not sleep forever return when your dreams are through Start with cringy poem, end with cringy pseudocode. At least it comes naturally.
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyerswrote:
I am trying to wrap my head around Traefik (which I have never used; have only used Caddy for most of my needs) to plan a migration for things I now run on "bare metalโ€ to containers, and then use Traefik as entry point. If you know some good guides, send the link my way, please.
@fixed๐Ÿค”profilefollowwrote:
hey, @fixedprofilefollow here! I was a coder not so long ago, and while I search for new tags for myself, why not searching for new ways to connect with people too?
@fixed๐Ÿค”profilefollowreplied to@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.com:
Same! Didn't quit, but I don't think I'm a coder anymore. I don't know if I'm an AI orchestrator, harness programmer, dark factory manager or whatever title we come up next, but it's been a while since I wrote my last LoC. What about you? Saw some Pi on your feed. How are you navigating this?
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@fixed๐Ÿค”profilefollow:
I just incorporated AI into my workflow. A new tool I am meant to master. The nature of what I do has not fundamentally changed, only the process of how to do it. Ironically I don't use Pi at work (only Claude Code was allowed there), but it is what I enjoy using on my personal projects. I love how flexible it is.
@resolstice๐Ÿ’คprofilefollowmorgan โ˜† any pronouns i dont know anything about programming, but im here anywaywrote:
possibly ridiculous question: is there any 3d modeling software out there that operates like CAD ? (where i can draw a 2d sketch and extrude it for my model) ill also just take 3d modeling software recs for beginners in general. or guides on how to use blender lolol #3DModelsnotesfollow #3DModelingnotesfollow (<- is this how tags work idk i just got here)
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@klumbering๐ŸคกprofilefollowFirst thing to say is, I hope the owners of Chatgpt Claude Gemini and Others gets bloodeagled for making their unwanted baby, anyways Hello =)wrote:
i hate people who answer for me because im midway getting edged for a sneeze
@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.wrote:
There is beauty in simplicity. Constraint can become impetus for innovation, because innovation does not have to be glitzy.
@miqโ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.replied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
Word! It's a travesty that complexity seems to be lauded and rewarded over simplicity.
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
My favorite innovations in my own work -- and to be honest, I'd prefer to call them "discoveries" -- came from simplification. There's a beautiful moment when a stack of difficult, conflicting ideas collapse into a tighter, simpler structure.