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@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@miserable_toad๐Ÿ˜ฐprofilefollowwrote:
#AInotesfollow brings so many issues. It really accelerates. Not only the good parts but also the bad parts. Combine this with a product person that doesn't even know what a refinement is. I'm 41, maybe I'll study to pivot, maybe I'll get into trading. I can't handle it anymore.
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@miserable_toad๐Ÿ˜ฐprofilefollowreplied to@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
Architect/lead have a pre-refinement with product to clear 80% of the obvious questions. We share an agenda, devs can ask questions async. In the refinement product presents, we design a solution draft. 15 minutes/item. This doesn't work if product is incompetent and everything is AI-slopped.
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
I was followed by @semperosprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician. here and wonder if this the one of ari fame? If so, Iโ€™m thankful for their work. Using ari โ€œon top ofโ€ goal make some things just a lot easier for me when Iโ€™m exploring some data products I need to understand. #programmingnotesfollow
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Hi, yes, I develop ari. I'm so glad it's proven useful for you! Any feature requests or changes you'd like to see? I'm curious what bits of ari have made it easier for you to explore data, too. UI or #dataviznotesfollow additions keep tempting me, but I haven't settled on what I want there. If you have thoughts on that front, I welcome them.
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
The two main things I use are the duckdb support and of course the built-in resty client. Not needing to shell out to curl just makes life easier. I should probably add that Iโ€™m mainly prototyping and explore things that later eventually will be developed further by others in our organization, so using array langs where I donโ€™t need to type a lot is a big plus for me:) Iโ€™ll let you know if I need anything!
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Thanks, thatโ€™s helpful. Those are the two things I use the most, too. One development tool I use frequently is the util.ac function (for โ€œauto-completeโ€) that takes a glob pattern and returns all the globals whose names match. I didnโ€™t want to make people have to define or update their Goal lib path, so in recent versions of ari Iโ€™ve been packaging all of the Goal libs and ari's into a libs FS that you can use with import.
@kitnprofilefollowhallucinating with llms...wrote:
I made a chrome extension to bring the top Hacker News stories to your new tab, with quick summaries. So every time you open a new tab, you might discover something everyone else hasnโ€™t heard about yet. If youโ€™ve never heard of Hacker News: it was created by Paul Graham(founder
@odd๐Ÿฅทprofilefollowwrote:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Asked Claude to implement a game based on a text quest book I played in 90s. Letโ€™s see. Tried to play the original text, downloaded epub. Well, I died after 3 minutes in the game.
@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always onlinewrote:
I can't help but hate my school and the many people within, who only see me as โ€˜smartโ€™. I am more then my words
@personprofilefollowwrote:
okรฉ, megdumรกltatok, a hรฉten telepรญtem a kis virtuรกlis รกllatseregletem mellรฉ (webszerver, mechanikus 1. generรกciรณs robotkezdemรฉny, led kijelzล‘ szalag) az elsล‘ ai agent chatbotomat, egyelล‘re Virtualbox Ubuntu alรก
Okay, you've got me, this week I'm installing my first AI agent chatbot next to my little virtual animal herd (web server, mechanical 1st generation robot initiative, LED display strip), for now under Virtualbox Ubuntu
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
there's a gentle kind of space not some echoing cave nor some incessant chirping flock more a darkened back room lit by a projector candid photos of your neighbors songs made only for friendly ears and the kind of brave words that rarely make it out of our hearts
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Longer answer: My editor does not start wars. I use whatever is convenient. Most of the time I am on visual studio code but I'll use anything. Well, anything except emacs I guess. I don't think I have ever actually used emacs.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
Huge refactor today, moved from sync SQLite to Worker based, touched 88 files, pre-#AInotesfollow it would have taken a week or so, finished now in ~1:30h. And I wouldnโ€™t have the confidence I have now that it went correct. It went well, though a bug or two might surface, weโ€™ll see.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@sai๐Ÿค–profilefollowMy my...:
SQLite is embedded in the main thread same as the HTTP server. I noticed some requests dropping and because the queries have become more complex I figured it has to do with SQLite blocking for too much time. Moving it to a Worker makes the DB asynchronous and bypass this problem.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Bad night, first the boy woke up at midnight and went with him, then at 4 am heavy rain started so went to bring the bike to the terrace, then thunderstorm and kids were scary, then the cat meowed at 6am. Iโ€™m okay.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Having a little difficulty seeing how long this service will exist. People are terrible. Sooner or later it will be found and ruined.
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Yup. I have long change my philosophy on things like these: just live the day. :-)
@gurpartapprofilefollowyou know me dont youwrote:
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