When I read about in reputable , I relate to almost everything that is described (keeping in mind that no two autistic people are alike). However, I always read the sections on with bewilderment. I don't identify either with the obsessive need to make eye contact, which UK and US books often mention as behavior, or with the difficulties in making it.
I suspectโand this is the interesting partโthat there are significant cultural differences in this regard. In fact, the reputable Spanish books on autism that I have read don't address this topic (if I remember correctly).
Unless I am attracted to the person I almost never maintain eye contact while talking to them. Iโm from Greece btw, doing eye contact is normal, I see others do it, so I diverge there.
Is it eye contact or is it looking at the face, in general? I never thought I had a problem in this department unter I started reading about ASD. Do people look at the eyes like when they make a toast? It feels unnatural to mee. My observation is that people look at the face, in general, without focusing on the eyes exactly, except for short intervals. It would seem strange to me if someone fixated on my eyes this way and I don't think that people do like that.
Definitely people here do intense full locked eye contact, which I canโt do, unless Iโm attracted to the person as I said. Even then Iโll move a bit around the face because itโs uncomfortable even then. But others just lock in completely I see them doing it.
OK. I guess that Greece may be similar to Spain. I feel comfortable hanging with greeks, in Greece and elswhere. Then, if I don't look at the eyes, but others do. I guess that I'm very good at masking that I don't look at the eyes. I never got a comment related to eye contact.
I donโt think itโs something people notice immediately and consciously think this is wrong to make a comment, they will probably just not feel the same connection or feel something is off about you in general or think that youโre busy thinking other things. Itโs not the only case to not make eye contact with someone, you might just not like them. Thatโs probably what they will sense.
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs๐คชprofilefollow:I'm 55 and recently self-diagnosed as "fairly ASD with some ADHD" after watching a lot of youtube videos. It's been immensely helpful (to the point of bringing me to tears sometimes) in understanding the struggles I had when I was younger. It's also been very helpful in understanding what I can do currently to support myself and work with my brain instead of against it.
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelic:I'm glad it was useful to you. This process of becoming aware of our autism is not easy. It is liberating, but it is also difficult, at the same time.
I watched a lot of videos too, but then I visited a couple psiquiatrists and a psycologist (I had other problems too), just to be sure.
What is your opinion about the ASD youtube landscape? I think that there are a few very good channels, but there is lot of noise too. I see some danger there.
Those "10 signs you may be [or not be] autistic" seem quite dangerous to me. Neurodivergence can be tricky.
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs๐คชprofilefollow:Yeah. I do like them sometimes, but the good authors are careful to start the video with looots of caveats (e.g. "this is not how to diagnose, just something that's maybe helpful").
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs๐คชprofilefollow:Yeah I agree that there are many ASD channels on YT of varying qualities. I only follow a few. Some of my favorites (very roughly in order):
I think for now being self diagnosed is enough for me. Just knowing that I'm neurodivergent has been helpful for me to be kind to my own mind.
@MomontheSpectrum@imautisticnowwhat@elenacarr0ll-- kinda more emotive, but I find that helpful sometimes@autismfromtheInside-- no longer posts (burned out)
