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@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘“ ๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ช๐‘ฏ ยท๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ข๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ง๐‘ฏ๐‘›: ๐‘ฃ๐‘จ๐‘› ๐‘ฉ ๐‘“๐‘ซ๐‘ค ยท๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘๐‘ฒ (๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘š๐‘ฆ๐‘‘) ๐‘˜๐‘จ๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ผ๐‘›๐‘ฑ, ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฌ ๐‘‘ ๐‘›๐‘ต ๐‘จ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘“ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ด๐‘•๐‘‘. ๐‘ค๐‘ณ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘’๐‘ท๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ท๐‘‘๐‘ณ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฉ๐‘ค ๐‘ข๐‘จ๐‘ž๐‘ผ. Three for three on British dishes this weekend: had a full English and a pie (rabbit) yesterday, now to do a beef roast. Lovely and cozy in this autumnal weather.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
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@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.replied to@nathan๐Ÿฅธprofilefollow:
The book, but actually ideas, like tiny functions and names. Aposd is much deeper book. Hilarious read github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-codeGitHubGitHub - johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code: A discussion between John Ousterhout and Robert Martin about differences between John's book "A Philosophy of Software Design" and Bob's book "Clean Code".A discussion between John Ousterhout and Robert Martin about differences between John's book "A Philosophy of Software Design" and Bob's book "Clean Code". - johnousterh...
@wtrprofilefollowwrote:
ๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชž่ฉฑ่€…ใฏใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚ใ“ใ“ใงๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใงๆ›ธใ่พผใฟ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†
I wonder how many Japanese speakers there are. Is it okay to keep posting in Japanese here?
@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied to@wtrprofilefollow:
ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ใฏใ˜ใ‚ใพใ—ใฆใ€‚
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@sicilicaprofilefollowreplied to@wtrprofilefollow:
ใ“ใ“ใงๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใงๆ›ธใ่พผใฟ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ† ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆไฝœๆˆ่€…ใฏใ•ใพใ–ใพใฎ่จ€่ชžใฎ่ฉฑ่€…ใŒไธ€็ท’ใซ่ฉฑใ›ใ‚‹ๅ ด้ขใซใ—ใŸใ„ๆฐ—ใŒใ™ใ‚‹ &1045
@pqsprofilefollowwrote:
Are there any plans to filter by language? What will happen when people start posting in several languages? #meta
I wonder if it's okay to keep posting in Japanese here. I get the feeling the site creator wants this to be a place where speakers of various languages can talk together. &1045
@pqsprofilefollowwrote:
Are there any plans to filter by language? What will happen when people start posting in several languages? #meta
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogcontinued:
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now we have automatic translations!
@14profilefollowwrote:
My iPhone is pouring its battery. Feels like a major upgrade of the OS is coming. Hate this crap.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Writing. I want to do it, very badly. I just don't want to be bad at it. You have to be bad at it in order to get good at it. But... Catch 22 isn't it?
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@dcprofilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I think reading helps quite a bit, especially writing about what youโ€™ve read, even to yourself, just so you can go through the process of having to explain something that youโ€™re only recently familiar with. Thereโ€™s something about that process that seems to be helpful, at least to me.
@prtys๐Ÿคกprofilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Same. The way I consume information influences how I think. Short form content makes my thinking fragmented without a clear structure. I feel that fragmented thinking won't lead to convincing writing. And I'm trying to regain some of that lost control.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to@prtys๐Ÿคกprofilefollow:
Very interesting! I think something along those lines might be happening for me too. Another aspect, always cooking in the back of my mind, "if you can't explain it well, don't explain it at all."
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
The fear of being bad at it is the only thing holding you back. I experienced something like that with playing music with others. Perhaps you could learn to lay down your critical brain during the creation process and that good/bad isn't a useful distinction until later when you're editing your work.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Yeah, this is pretty much what I can't do. My critical brain has a lot of power. It's very evolved at this point :/
@kundanprofilefollowwrote:
Spent months pair-building a full telecom BSS with an AI. The surprise wasn't the code โ€” it was that the real job became verification. The AI read 450 tokens for every 1 it wrote. Turns out building honestly is mostly re-reading. #opensourcebssnotesfollow
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
me too, but at the same time i'm enjoying getting things done, otherwise i would get lost in details like bikeshedding naming variables and making the code look pretty, and little would be done.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Happy [no] Labor Day to those in the U.S.!
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
Sigh. On the heels of our last home maintenance mess
@evnmprofilefollowwrote:
Very cool: our kids' bathroom toilet overflowed last night, resulting in water draining into our kitchen on the floor below.
, I just went into our garage to find a panel of insulation fallen to the ground, riddled with mouse droppings. ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿ˜ซ Cleaned it up (gloved and masked, naturally), but probably means we need to re-insulate the whole garage. Which will undoubtedly uncover a leak or some other issue. The fun never ends!
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.continued:
Obviously, I realize that it's a privilege to own a home and have issues like this to deal with ๐ŸงŽโ€โ™‚๏ธ
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
There are many distractions. Much is way too verbose. A calm, quiet and โ€œdistraction lessโ€ experience suits me better. I am not sure my thoughts will fit in 280 characters, but letโ€™s try and see how far that goes.
@pcprofilefollowwrote:
I sit in meetings all day long, I roll my eyes and die a bit and synergize and circle back inner life sacrosanct outer face smiling stone no need to rush: executives don't need to work just synergize and circle back #poemnotesfollow