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I'm doing experiments with short attention-span students and code. Starting with python, and, oddly, now working in BASIC. As a C programmer of 40+ years, I find this aesthetically and pedagogically displeasing, but I am delighted to see them getting fully absorbed in writing 130 PRINT "You have been eaten by a bear!" : GOTO 900. Yes there is spaghetti, but it's their spaghetti and they seem to take delight in debugging it. Python will come later. #educationnotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow
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I was talking about this with some alumni students, specifically their experience learning python with us a few years earlier (these are college students who are not really using python any more). What it seems to boil down to is that with python you have the feeling that there is this huge forest of solutions to any problem you are having -- but you will never know the whole forest. BASIC feels like you "know" it after a day or two of playing around, evidently.
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
Vรฅr konges livsgjerning gรฅr mot slutten, landet samler seg for รฅ ta farvel med en konge som har vรฆrt samlende og god for landet. Mรฅ Gud velsigne hans minne og hans etterfรธlger. #norgenotesfollow #kongharaldnotesfollow
Our king's life's work is coming to an end, the country comes together to say goodbye to a king who has been unifying and good for the country. May God bless his memory and his successor. #norwaynotesfollow #kongharaldnotesfollow
profilefollowgrocer-engineer and polynomial enjoyer. not into reactionaries i attempt to stave off burnout with a healthy dose of dark souls, bloodborne, and friendsreplied toprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
Beautiful, thanks for this, fellow emacs friend
profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Seeing Hallucinate brought to mind infiniteslop.aiinfiniteslop.aiInfinite Slop by @levelsio + fal.aiAn endless AI-generated TV channel where the chat decides what airs next.. ๐Ÿ˜…
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyers:
Yes! I was thinking of doing the same, see &2912
ooh maybe I revive hallucinate.site and add this feature but instead of being able to modify everything it would be limited to adding features to the game/world. And itโ€™s the perfect domain, a site thatโ€™s been entirely mostly hallucinated.
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๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comwrote:
A lot of people write so much software to sandbox their AI agents. I say don't bother. Just give your agent its own non-admin local user account. It's easier and much more effective.
๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
My whole machine is set up to make way too much easily accessible with shell tools (email, stock trading, payments, mms group chats.) I can't trust it.
โ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.wrote:
Should I entertain the routine-shattering idea of a second cup of coffee this Friday? #execnotesfollow console.log(Math.random() < 0.5 ? "Yes" : "No")
Yes
profilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied to๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.:
Do you dunk the Crunchie or mush it in?
๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied toprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
Ewww. No, just have it alongside. Sip, scrunch, sip, scrunch. Lovely.
profilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied to๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.:
Oh I misunderstood you ๐Ÿคฃ
profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied toโ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.:
Need to use a quantum RNG to split the timeline into one where you did, and one where you didn't
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๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied toprofilefollowjack of all trades linux sysadmin:
Good for you. You must be one of the last holdouts against "QR all the things!".
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied toprofilefollow:
I think short urls are still memorable and good. My phone doesn't surrogate all of my recall.
๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.:
Short URLs are good. Memorable URLs are good. URLs spat out by URL shorteners are something entirely different.
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.:
Ah, the randomly generated ones. Yeah, agreed.
The longer the text you need to store, the bigger a QR code needs to be in order to scan reliably. Also, you might be more confident in being able to keep a short URL stable (it's already a step of indirection, so if you want to reorg your site you can just update where the short URL points to). But people don't really take care to maintain short URLs anyway, apparently.
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ๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชž่ฉฑ่€…ใฏใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚ใ“ใ“ใงๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใงๆ›ธใ่พผใฟ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†
I wonder how many Japanese speakers there are. Is it okay to keep posting in Japanese here?
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Hello World
profilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied toprofilefollow:
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Hello. Nice to meet you.
ใ“ใ“ใงๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใงๆ›ธใ่พผใฟ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ† ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆไฝœๆˆ่€…ใฏใ•ใพใ–ใพใฎ่จ€่ชžใฎ่ฉฑ่€…ใŒไธ€็ท’ใซ่ฉฑใ›ใ‚‹ๅ ด้ขใซใ—ใŸใ„ๆฐ—ใŒใ™ใ‚‹ /post/1045
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I wonder if it's okay to keep posting in Japanese here. I get the feeling the site creator wants this to be a place where speakers of various languages can talk together. /post/1045
Are there any plans to filter by language? What will happen when people start posting in several languages? #meta
๐Ÿค profilefollowtalkingwrote:
Found some coffee at TJ Maxx (american discount store) -- not a big discount but still fun.
๐Ÿงšprofilefollowwrote:
If you left your current industry, what would you do for a living?
profilefollowis fighting the urge to sleepreplied to๐Ÿงšprofilefollow:
i think id love to do something along the lines of (physical) product design im currently a software engineer. ive been into keyboards for a while and designed a good number. few things are as satisfying as taking an idea from something on paper or in my head to a shiny, pretty thing to play with
๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to๐Ÿงšprofilefollow:
Electrician. This is not a farfetched idea, by the way. Tumultuous times; each day could be my last workday.
โ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.replied to๐Ÿงšprofilefollow:
Ah, a recurring question that undesirably keeps me awake and staring at my bedroom ceiling these past couple of years due to all this AI apocalypse rhetoric. Wish I had a firm answer. Preferably, not something frontline customer-facing, and where I can still exercise agency.