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@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I was obsessed with Greece as a kid because of The Chipmunk's Adventure movie where they were dancing on the statues, ha. I was more into he statues (even if cartoon) than the dancing, and yet I have still never been there (I'm 45).
@cgast๐Ÿ“ถprofilefollowcurious & creativewrote:
What if AI will never reach full autonomy and humans are still needed to give direction and purpose and take responsibility - probably... not all humans like to be masters of AIs all day long and not all (who want to) can do that equally well.
@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.wrote:
I love the "feel" of this place. It's minimal, but not too minimal. Nice work! I'm probably gonna be a little chatty on here. If anyone minds that, then just @ me :-) #launchnotesfollow
@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.continued:
Also, thank you for not turning my emoticons into emoji!! As someone from the pre-internet era, I appreciate that :-)
@procyon๐Ÿฆprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.:
But can we use emoji if we want? ๐Ÿค”
@jmnufprofilefollowChilling. Hand coding C to feel alivewrote:
If I went back in time, I would aim to become a professional footballer rather than becoming a programmer
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Is open source dead? Everyone has the power now to make their own stacks of things. The people aspect of open source is dead or dying. I don't think the bunny is going back in the box.
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
One nice thing about Open Source (at least for me) is different people doing the same thing in different ways and one of those happen to suit my taste perfectly. And in many cases, I won't be able to come with it myself even with Super Intelligence.
@paulprofilefollowadamspaul.short.gy/notesreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Evgeny Morozov has pointed out that using ai through chat interfaces is based on an individualised and privatised model, which (heavily paraphrased) is inherently anti-social. With an extra layer now of people making small personalised tools, do bigger things still need teams of people who know what theyโ€™re doing? FWIW Iโ€™d like to see more sharing of vibe coded tools instead of everyone making their own more less the same ones. Mine are here: pauladams.neocities.org
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I don't think so. I have been using more open source software than ever before. You may argue that with LLMs I have the power to make my own stack of things, but this doesn't eliminate that I still need knowledge to properly steer an LLM to create something worthwhile. If I have no knowledge of what I intend to build, the best thing the LLM will generate is a half-assed copy of something that already exists. Which is what we have been drowning in the past couple of years.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comcontinued:
AI can be a superpower in the hands of someone knowledgeable. That makes the people aspect of open source more important, not less. If you offload your curiosity and desire to learn to AI, you will be a slave to it's limitations instead of being a master of its capabilities.
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Of course not. I think it is much more relevant to ask "Is closed source dead?". Anyone can now replace a proprietary program with a vibeslopped alternative which might suit them just as well. It will have the same level of trust (ie. none) and none of the other drawbacks.
@edwin๐Ÿ˜ฌprofilefollowwrote:
I naively went into a work problem thinking that RAG was solved by the service offered at work, and wow was I wrong. Been a fun week so far experimenting with many different methods before doing the academic research, and it's been nice to be validated by outside research.
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This 4, 2 literary and programming tradition, which Douglas Adams drew attention to, is interesting. In my case, 4 of this tradition are psychiatric and 2 are rehabilitation topics, which is interestingly itself a 4, 2, which seems to be starting to be recursive, but it is not completely www.textlog.hu/a-4-adel-es-2-szuzett/
@elana๐ŸงšprofilefollowI have a doctorate in ancient stuff but these days I'm a full-time plague avoider. Born and raised in Toronto, Canada, now living in Kyoto, Japan.wrote:
@yonkeltronprofilefollow Did this work? I would like to say hello to you!
@yonkeltron๐Ÿค–profilefollowreplied to@elana๐ŸงšprofilefollowI have a doctorate in ancient stuff but these days I'm a full-time plague avoider. Born and raised in Toronto, Canada, now living in Kyoto, Japan.:
Hello to you, my dear friend! Sending all my love to you both for a Shana Tova!
@jarltron๐Ÿค–profilefollowwrote:
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@kk๐Ÿฆ€profilefollowwrote:
New in agenttop.dev : panels open in your #multiplexernotesfollow. ๐Ÿคนโ€โ™‚๏ธ โ€ข Any panel can now split into its own pane, live, beside the #agentsnotesfollow table. โ€ข Works with all the popular multiplexers: #๐˜๐—บ๐˜‚๐˜…notesfollow, #๐˜‡๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ทnotesfollow, #๐—ช๐—ฒ๐˜‡๐—ง๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—บnotesfollow ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜๐˜†. โ€ข run a panel on its own: agent-top mcp, agent-top slow, agent-top fails, agent-top advice. โž• The # MCP panel also lists the orphaned MCP processes that outlived their agent and are still eating memory.
@0010011001011100profilefollow&\wrote:
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@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingswrote:
Looking for a new daily-driver #scriptingnotesfollow language. Criteria:
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  • batteries-included stdlib (json, subprocesses, fs, etc.)
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Any other #recommendationsnotesfollow? #Codenotesfollow #Devnotesfollow #Technotesfollow
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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I use GoalCodeberg.orggoalGoal, an embeddable scripting array language., extended with ariGitHubGitHub - semperos/ari: Ari: Goal language extended with SQL and moreAri: Goal language extended with SQL and more. Contribute to semperos/ari development by creating an account on GitHub. as my daily driver. Since it's implemented in Go, it's straightforward to extend with anything from Go's standard library (or third-party ecosystem) that isn't already incorporated. If you haven't used an array language before, then you get the added bonus of learning a ton about an interesting, powerful area of programming.
@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingsreplied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Not familiar with array languages but it looksโ€ฆ interesting. Thanks for the suggestion.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I sometimes use V scriptGitHubv/doc/docs.md at master ยท vlang/vSimple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io - vl..., but I use V-lang as well. It is kind-of interpreted. Iโ€™ve never heard of rye. Looks nice.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
It does not, but fakes it well, since it is fast and compares built binary with script mtime to automatically recompile. The downside of using it is that you end up with a binary, but the upside is that it is blazing fast.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!