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๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied toprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
So we can't use em dash anymore โ€” lest we anger the mob. Truth be told though, English teachers have always discouraged em dash overuse because it is a subtle art and very easy to get wrong.
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The funny thing is that in the UK, we don't really use the em dash anyway. We use the hyphen (I guess en dash?) with a space each side. So the em dash has always looked a bit odd to us... ๐Ÿ˜Š
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ˜Šprofilefollow:
There are dashes (-), as well as en dashes (โ€“), and there are em dashes (โ€”), not to miss the mighty center dot (โ€ข) that looks like a perky boob when surrounded by brackets haha
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Just get and read Chicago Manual of Style, or Oxford Style Manual if you so prefer, and youโ€™re all set to use the various dashโ€™es (and many other things).
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Thereโ€™s other dashes to pick if you want to steer clear of the almighty em dash!
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
The anti-slop mob is tiresome. With a careful and appropiate use of ai it is possible to make a lot of interesting stuff. And I hate even more when the mob "profs" that the text is ai using those ai detectros that can't detect ai.
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.wrote:
Off to handstand class. I have been known to recommend to everyone within earshot doing challenging and/or silly physical things in a community. Not bucking the trend here.
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingswrote:
Anyone here using NixOS? How long did it take for you to learn it and completely set it up? My current distro is Arch (btw)
profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
I find myself building bespoke tooling for my own #swdevnotesfollow and #ainotesfollow workflows these days, not only because of the obvious reason of software being so much cheaper to build, but also because there are SO MANY options for solving any given problem that it feels impossible to evaluate all of them. If it's not a crucial piece of tech for a work problem then it often feels like paving my own way is both cheaper mentally (kind of amazing that's true these days) and probably a better fit.
..then of course I have to contend with - "Is this going to be a maintenance nightmare in the future?" and then I still usually conclude "no, the maintenance will be aided by the same approach that the construction was". It's interesting how dramatically and quickly the scales have changed in this equation - and for such a wide range of software.
For example, I am looking for a coding agent coordinator with a particular (but not all that insane) set of requirements. I used both Claude and Perplexity to show me options and break them down by fit against my requirements. I got completely different lists! No overlap! And no perfect fits.
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๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowpoet by heart ๐“…ฐ:
Catastrophic interference is also a favorite Wikipedia page and concept. The thing is, it doesnโ€™t only happen to artificial neural networks, Iโ€™ve had it happen to me a few times. Especially with pin numbers, newer pins overwriting old ones and Iโ€™m always scared when Iโ€™m having hard time remembering something that this catastrophic interference applied and now the information is gone from my brain.
I naively went into a work problem thinking that RAG was solved by the service offered at work, and wow was I wrong. Been a fun week so far experimenting with many different methods before doing the academic research, and it's been nice to be validated by outside research.
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profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied toprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
The future is here. But instead of flying cars or holodeck, what you get is tracking cookies and captcha everywhere. Maybe someday you will need to have your rectum scanned by Google or Meta nee Facebook before your browser does a HTTP request.
I truly love the experience of using apps with rich, deeply interactive, beautifully animated, gorgeous user interfaces. Then I see a beautiful text-based interface and something about it feels so natural, so inevitable, so perfectly clear, and I'm instantly captivated by its simplicity and clarity. Hypertext is fascinating.
looking at the German public railway system (DB), I always wonder if the stereotypes of timeliness and precision were ever actually true. Surely someone must've figured out by now how off they are? These trains are always late and / or broken.