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@geverprofilefollowwrote:
I'm doing experiments with short attention-span students and code. Starting with python, and, oddly, now working in BASIC. As a C programmer of 40+ years, I find this aesthetically and pedagogically displeasing, but I am delighted to see them getting fully absorbed in writing 130 PRINT "You have been eaten by a bear!" : GOTO 900. Yes there is spaghetti, but it's their spaghetti and they seem to take delight in debugging it. Python will come later. #educationnotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow
@geverprofilefollowreplied to(deleted account):
I was talking about this with some alumni students, specifically their experience learning python with us a few years earlier (these are college students who are not really using python any more). What it seems to boil down to is that with python you have the feeling that there is this huge forest of solutions to any problem you are having -- but you will never know the whole forest. BASIC feels like you "know" it after a day or two of playing around, evidently.
@catastrofer๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
I think I may be use this for now to spill out my guts a bit. Set out boundaries guys. I was basically ignoring how important that is, whatever is at work, family, relations. Be loved being you, you don't have to meet any expectations beyond yours.
@bobbyprofilefollowwrote:
just finished the book โ€œThis is what inequality looks likeโ€ by Teo You Yenn. will gather my thoughts and write more about it.
@miqโ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.wrote:
Trying to gently work my way back to the target intensity needed for the Norwegian 4x4 to get my weekly dose of suck and feel accomplished after. Chronic left leg pain unfortunately likes reminding me it's there though.
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
I've been building a Markdown variant called Zd that's focused on extensibility and simplicity. I'm curious what you would change about Markdown if you were designing it from scratch, what challenges you face as a user, or what you wish were easier to do when incorporating Markdown into your own projects.
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Yeah, 100%. That is completely something I am punting on currently. It would be easy to just copy over the solution from (extensions to) Markdown, but it's hard to entirely narrow in on both what tables ought to do and how to make them do it. If you had a magic wand, what would you have them be more like?
@ag๐Ÿฅฐprofilefollowwrote:
Hitting a workout streak. I started using ladder app and have been consistent for the last two weeks. Three years ago I was 75 lbs heavier. Now trying to build muscle. Sitting and staring at a screen all dayโ€ฆ I did that a bit too much ;)
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@ag๐Ÿฅฐprofilefollow:
Nice work! Working out, once I got into it, was always the fun part. Eating healthy remains a challenge...
@ag๐Ÿฅฐprofilefollowreplied to@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Thanks @kevprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.. I find cooking myself to be the biggest help. And not buying those sweeeeeets
@semperos๐Ÿ˜ŠprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@ag๐Ÿฅฐprofilefollow:
Congrats! New habits are tough to form, wishing you success in keeping bad weight off and putting some muscle on!
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@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.replied to@nathan๐Ÿฅธprofilefollow:
The book, but actually ideas, like tiny functions and names. Aposd is much deeper book. Hilarious read github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-codeGitHubGitHub - johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code: A discussion between John Ousterhout and Robert Martin about differences between John's book "A Philosophy of Software Design" and Bob's book "Clean Code".A discussion between John Ousterhout and Robert Martin about differences between John's book "A Philosophy of Software Design" and Bob's book "Clean Code". - johnousterh...
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).