hi o/ im from south america, i see the on HN. I really like the vibes and the idea. Ill probably be posting here often, while in the office. cya
Any conversation
Can you learn programming by building with AI?
Better than before5%
About the same0%
Worse than before55%
Depends how you use it40%
If programming is the typing of characters into a text file, it is way worse. I think the key to learning is still doing it rather than reading it. If the question is about system design I think you can, but only if you curious and it becomes a problem that needs to be solved.
Asking "What do you think" is one of my favorite questions to learn at the moment.
I do think there will be what were hard earned lessons about system design, code smell, designing data structures for the hardware you're running on, concurrency golden paths, etc., which are now with agentic dev even harder to learn and internalize. But also if you have an excellent teacher in the form of an actually-good model pair programming with you always, maybe not? Maybe a pair programming AI programming tutor would be a good Zed/vscode extension. Or product.
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NIH syndrome? I am guilty of it too. I love implementing things from scratch, you learn a lot by doing so and you get to own the codebase end-to-end, so no surprises and fighting around othersโ choices. It can get exhausting too though, in the end I succumb to using off-the-shelf components because my primary goals move at a higher level.
I don't see much point in trying to build software at a "higher level", like whole products and services. I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. Hopefully in time I'll be able to contribute to the foundational bits.
You're right, it does get exhausting. At some point you just want to rebuild everything, which is not possible.
How do you define slop in relation to ? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop
This #tome about #Tcl/Tk has me re-evaluating my plans to move to the woods to be a carpenter hermit.
Now I want to move to the woods and be a programmer hermit.
ive been rocking my thinkpad 460s since 2018 or so, but ive just recently yolo purchased a chunky t420 for 80โฌ. I gotta say this is the best laptop ive ever used, keyboard/io is unmatched and it still runs super snappy on omarchy right now, even with only 4 gigs of ram :D AND this thing has a cd drive!
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You can't resize an image on the internet, not even under Windows, Grok only works roughly, what follows from this, we'll have to let Gemma in, as if Linus Thorvalds had complained the other day that Linux was also flooded with AI
Spotted this Royal Air Force A400 over the lake yesterday, it was so different from civil planes www.planespotters.net/โฆ/zm420-royal-air-force-โฆatlas-c1-a400m-180