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@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
ai coding feels like it has reached diminishing returns for me. luna is my default orchestrator, routing work by complexity. in practice, usage lands around 16% luna, 48% sol, 30% astra, and 6% terra. at this point, i care less about each new frontier release. the system already finds a capable model for the job. the frontier is moving beyond my day-to-day work, so iโ€™m happy to settle into predictable models for a while. #ainotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow #agentnotesfollow #technotesfollow
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Iโ€™ve found the same, albeit with Opus โ€” itโ€™s hard to find uses for Fable. I donโ€™t need a model that works for longer or works on harder problems, I need one that consistently produces simple, easy to understand, code; which at this point none of them do.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
I've been there since I settled on a combination of GLM, DeepSeek and MiMo for planning, implementation, and verification flows. I'm a lot more interested at this point in having cheaper models that can consistently do the work I need. It's been a while that I hanven't noticed any improvement when I try new frontier models. I only notice they are very expensive.
@b0rgprofilefollowreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
same here, for almost an year. At this point, I could easily live with models that were released 6-12 months ago and continue doing so. also possibly the reason why the current focus has been around agentic workflows or agentic anything, than the model capabilities.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Coding probably yeah, but still they are bad at generating novel information, new ideas and such. Theyโ€™re also not very good at seeing the bigger picture, they will narrowly perform the task but theyโ€™re not taking into account future revisions, which ends up in refactor after refactor in order to move forward.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kucreated a poll:
What do you think is better? #pollnotesfollow
Students stay in the same classroom all day, teachers come and go60%
Teachers stay in the same classroom all day, students come and go40%
Nobody stays in the same room all day, rooms are booked for the duration of the lecture period0%
5 voted
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
I picked the first, because you didnโ€™t specified level, and I assumed below college.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
I was followed by @semperosprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician. here and wonder if this the one of ari fame? If so, Iโ€™m thankful for their work. Using ari โ€œon top ofโ€ goal make some things just a lot easier for me when Iโ€™m exploring some data products I need to understand. #programmingnotesfollow
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Hi, yes, I develop ari. I'm so glad it's proven useful for you! Any feature requests or changes you'd like to see? I'm curious what bits of ari have made it easier for you to explore data, too. UI or #dataviznotesfollow additions keep tempting me, but I haven't settled on what I want there. If you have thoughts on that front, I welcome them.
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
The two main things I use are the duckdb support and of course the built-in resty client. Not needing to shell out to curl just makes life easier. I should probably add that Iโ€™m mainly prototyping and explore things that later eventually will be developed further by others in our organization, so using array langs where I donโ€™t need to type a lot is a big plus for me:) Iโ€™ll let you know if I need anything!
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Thanks, thatโ€™s helpful. Those are the two things I use the most, too. One development tool I use frequently is the util.ac function (for โ€œauto-completeโ€) that takes a glob pattern and returns all the globals whose names match. I didnโ€™t want to make people have to define or update their Goal lib path, so in recent versions of ari Iโ€™ve been packaging all of the Goal libs and ari's into a libs FS that you can use with import.
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearwrote:
Guess we're doing Halloween stuff on sale everywhere now ๐ŸŽƒ
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Is open source dead? Everyone has the power now to make their own stacks of things. The people aspect of open source is dead or dying. I don't think the bunny is going back in the box.
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
One nice thing about Open Source (at least for me) is different people doing the same thing in different ways and one of those happen to suit my taste perfectly. And in many cases, I won't be able to come with it myself even with Super Intelligence.
@paulprofilefollowadamspaul.short.gy/notesreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Evgeny Morozov has pointed out that using ai through chat interfaces is based on an individualised and privatised model, which (heavily paraphrased) is inherently anti-social. With an extra layer now of people making small personalised tools, do bigger things still need teams of people who know what theyโ€™re doing? FWIW Iโ€™d like to see more sharing of vibe coded tools instead of everyone making their own more less the same ones. Mine are here: pauladams.neocities.org
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I don't think so. I have been using more open source software than ever before. You may argue that with LLMs I have the power to make my own stack of things, but this doesn't eliminate that I still need knowledge to properly steer an LLM to create something worthwhile. If I have no knowledge of what I intend to build, the best thing the LLM will generate is a half-assed copy of something that already exists. Which is what we have been drowning in the past couple of years.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comcontinued:
AI can be a superpower in the hands of someone knowledgeable. That makes the people aspect of open source more important, not less. If you offload your curiosity and desire to learn to AI, you will be a slave to it's limitations instead of being a master of its capabilities.
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Of course not. I think it is much more relevant to ask "Is closed source dead?". Anyone can now replace a proprietary program with a vibeslopped alternative which might suit them just as well. It will have the same level of trust (ie. none) and none of the other drawbacks.
@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.wrote:
Fair play to Apple and team, 5 apps in for review, 4 passed through each within an hour. 'Appy days
@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑreplied to(deleted account):
Itโ€™s the social network I so want to love but something about it feels off.
@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑreplied to(deleted account):
I never understood why they would allow you to follow different โ€œfeedsโ€ but not hashtags. I like mastodonโ€™s approach better.
@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑreplied to(deleted account):
Oh my god, art was the only reason I used bsky regularly. Not anymore, and I miss it too.
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollow:
You've hit the nail on the head. But here's the mindblowing partโ€”writing isn't just about text on a page. It's not about listing a bunch of facts to memorize. Writing is about human connection. And here's where it gets even more fascinating... [parody, not AI]
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowreplied to@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
Some writing yes, If you want to write a post saying why your company has a position yes; if you are documenting an API, does the average swagger page have a human connection factor? If you are in X/FB, is any of your followers a "human connection"?
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowcontinued:
Then, in some spaces, say big corp communications, the terse, direct communication is desired, for example the quarter earning communication? What about software?, what part of your browser gives you the "human connection"?
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollow:
If writing (incl X/FB posts) is meant to convey "some human being did/saw/thought this and found it worth writing about", then AI undermines human connection and will annoy people. API docs, earnings reports, &c never conveyed that to begin with, so nobody will care about AI use.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
1 watermelon 17kg, ~2kg of meat (lamb, beef and chicken) for barbecue, paprika and green peppers, zucchini. Total 92 eur. Lifeโ€™s expensive in 2026.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Morning! What's on the docket today?
@johy๐Ÿฆฅprofilefollowreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
In the middle of migrating very old, homegrown tomfoolery into a more modern stack. Fun and vexing at the same time. This codebase has all of the bad decisions. All of them.