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profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
๐Ÿง™profilefollowwrote:
(Opinion) People donโ€™t like generative AI because it made the {insert creativity} too easy. Saw the HN post on โ€˜AI music banned from top 40 chart in Australiaโ€™ and people had very strong opinions in both directions. The hot take: If youโ€™re ok with someoneโ€™s creativity being outsourced to others, then you should be ok with AI doing the same. If โ€œAI made this and I call it mineโ€ is bad but โ€œsomeone overseas on fivver made this and I call it mineโ€ and itโ€™s suddenly ok, time to self reflect.
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My hot take: from the moment you use technology, be it an instrument, a synthesizer, a DAW, and now AI, it is still your idea, your effort, your time spent, and that makes it yours. Others can do the same if they choose. The same way someone chooses a classic guitar over a synthesizer, one can choose an AI over (insert ancient way of doing things).
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๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.:
Youโ€™re rolling the dice whenever you are searching for a sample or a preset in a synthesizer. Eventually itโ€™s what โ€œsounds goodโ€, so still the effort is your judgement and the time spent finding that โ€œdice rollโ€ that sounded well.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I am not a musician, so I lack the jargon to properly explain what I mean. I used AI for creative writing (nothing too fancy, TTRPG). There, the broader the dice roll, the more generic and uninteresting the results. Slop, if you will. It was surprisingly good to build up on ideas I had however. I imagine muisic also has building blocks. Melodies, instruments, mixing, etc. AI can perhaps be used in a similar fashion there.
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I heard a perspective I sort of like: if AI is a tool then acceptable AI use is, more or less, defined as "when my audience no longer notices or cares". It's dynamic like that. Bad photoshop is detectable and annoying, so are overusing presets. Your artistry needs to expand to meet the tool. I don't know if I 100% like that or agree. At the same time, it's a pretty straightforward line, a practical take.
๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingswrote:
Looking for a new daily-driver #scriptingnotesfollow language. Criteria:
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Any other #recommendationsnotesfollow? #Codenotesfollow #Devnotesfollow #Technotesfollow
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๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I use GoalCodeberg.orggoalGoal, an embeddable scripting array language., extended with ariGitHubGitHub - semperos/ari: Ari: Goal language extended with SQL and moreAri: Goal language extended with SQL and more. Contribute to semperos/ari development by creating an account on GitHub. as my daily driver. Since it's implemented in Go, it's straightforward to extend with anything from Go's standard library (or third-party ecosystem) that isn't already incorporated. If you haven't used an array language before, then you get the added bonus of learning a ton about an interesting, powerful area of programming.
๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingsreplied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Not familiar with array languages but it looksโ€ฆ interesting. Thanks for the suggestion.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I sometimes use V scriptGitHubv/doc/docs.md at master ยท vlang/vSimple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io - vl..., but I use V-lang as well. It is kind-of interpreted. Iโ€™ve never heard of rye. Looks nice.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
It does not, but fakes it well, since it is fast and compares built binary with script mtime to automatically recompile. The downside of using it is that you end up with a binary, but the upside is that it is blazing fast.
I finally bit the bullet and have started to use dictation software more often, even outside of just my prompts. I really like it. Hopefully, computer use becomes much smoother soon. I would love to be able to control my computer with just my voice.
profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyerswrote:
I had hit a throttle now. Thatโ€™s a โ€œsubtle" way to tell me to slow down.
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘“ ๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ช๐‘ฏ ยท๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ข๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ง๐‘ฏ๐‘›: ๐‘ฃ๐‘จ๐‘› ๐‘ฉ ๐‘“๐‘ซ๐‘ค ยท๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘๐‘ฒ (๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘š๐‘ฆ๐‘‘) ๐‘˜๐‘จ๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ผ๐‘›๐‘ฑ, ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฌ ๐‘‘ ๐‘›๐‘ต ๐‘จ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘“ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ด๐‘•๐‘‘. ๐‘ค๐‘ณ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘’๐‘ท๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ท๐‘‘๐‘ณ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฉ๐‘ค ๐‘ข๐‘จ๐‘ž๐‘ผ. Three for three on British dishes this weekend: had a full English and a pie (rabbit) yesterday, now to do a beef roast. Lovely and cozy in this autumnal weather.
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Is it that you donโ€™t enjoy coffee, or you donโ€™t enjoy Starbucks? Iโ€™m not a fan of Starbucksโ€™ coffee myself, but do enjoy coffee I make at home or get from local coffee shops.
๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
It is something silly made out of misheard lyrics from a Taylor Swift song. I usually drink instant coffee ๐Ÿฅน
profilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑwrote:
Had to take care of something for school. But now in bed with my book.
The essence of aligning large LLM models is basically to conform to the existing social order. ChatGPT respects China's order, while China's open-source models, although reluctantly, also tolerate the order in the US. Maybe we can build a revisionist SFT dataset.