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profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
Added #meta tag โ€” use it whenever you want to talk about the site itself, and these posts will not show up in all, any or the postโ€™s page. Only those that follow the tag or the person will see these posts in my feed or in post pages. This is to keep the site clear of meta discussions which dominated a lot at this early stage and I think were annoying to many people. So this is the last meta without the #meta tag youโ€™ll see unless u follow. Iโ€™ll try to tag every post I find.
profilefollowwrote:
It's not clear, based on personal experience, how long - if it all - the software development field will value devs who actually enjoy the work. Most people I know are producing mostly AI work and there's an obvious skill decline that's resulted from it. 1/?
But does it matter if your boss doesn't care? Or if their boss doesn't care? If the paychecks keep coming who cares? What's the point of choosing the mountain if the "joy" just means more hours on screen that could have been spent elsewhere? 2/?
I got into doing dev work, because I thought it was fun to learn and do and I genuinely enjoyed hanging out with others who felt the same. Now, more than ever, I realize how few people feel the same. And, now - more than ever, I realize that no on cares if I feel that way. 3/?
Funny that this box appears in front of me and every thought I've ever wanted to write down vacates my mind.
๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.replied to๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Same here! Though I don't even remember which r/ brought me here.
๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.:
I saw a new post on reddit while sorting by new
๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
ai coding feels like it has reached diminishing returns for me. luna is my default orchestrator, routing work by complexity. in practice, usage lands around 16% luna, 48% sol, 30% astra, and 6% terra. at this point, i care less about each new frontier release. the system already finds a capable model for the job. the frontier is moving beyond my day-to-day work, so iโ€™m happy to settle into predictable models for a while. #ainotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow #agentnotesfollow #technotesfollow
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Iโ€™ve found the same, albeit with Opus โ€” itโ€™s hard to find uses for Fable. I donโ€™t need a model that works for longer or works on harder problems, I need one that consistently produces simple, easy to understand, code; which at this point none of them do.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
I've been there since I settled on a combination of GLM, DeepSeek and MiMo for planning, implementation, and verification flows. I'm a lot more interested at this point in having cheaper models that can consistently do the work I need. It's been a while that I hanven't noticed any improvement when I try new frontier models. I only notice they are very expensive.
profilefollowreplied to๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
same here, for almost an year. At this point, I could easily live with models that were released 6-12 months ago and continue doing so. also possibly the reason why the current focus has been around agentic workflows or agentic anything, than the model capabilities.
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Coding probably yeah, but still they are bad at generating novel information, new ideas and such. Theyโ€™re also not very good at seeing the bigger picture, they will narrowly perform the task but theyโ€™re not taking into account future revisions, which ends up in refactor after refactor in order to move forward.
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
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Ubuntu telepรญtรฉse a VirtualBoxba rendben megtรถrtรฉnt. Mรกr csak egy รผgynรถkรถt kell bele fogni, รฉs mรกris kรฉsz az "AI torture chamber", ahogy a Futurism รญrja... Mondjuk, elsล‘ kรถrben mรฉg nem รญgy fogalmaznรฉk...
Ubuntu has been successfully installed in VirtualBox. All you need to do is add an agent and you have an "AI torture chamber", as Futurism describes it... Let's just say I wouldn't put it that way at first...
๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.wrote:
Well, this looks like a lovely place. #hellonotesfollow
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Donโ€™t be beholden to one LLM basket. Get yourself an Openrouter account, get yourself an open source harness like pi and get yourself educated. I will die on this hill.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
I agree with this. I already use different models for different tasks in part for this reason. Never bothered with an OpenRouter account though, I just have accounts set with each provider. And Pi is excellent. I actually find it much better than Claude Code.
profilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.wrote:
Added it as a company on LinkedIn so it must be 'live' now. Cheltenham-od.uk
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.wrote:
game dev with LLMs assisting on some of the engine legwork I learned to do over the years is the most fun programming I've had since I was 12 years old plucking away at the public library commodore 64
profilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑwrote:
The TPMS indicator came back on again today; on the same road, can you believe it? I might have to get it checked at Costco this weekend.
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Brikka. Someone on HN mentioned it as great design. I looked it up and bought it after a while. It's been such a delight. Even the occasional brew gone wrong adds to the experience. v60 is also nice when I need it to slow down or be the experience a bit meditative. But Chinese tea is the best for that.