"200K lines is not 10 times as much as 20K lines - from the mission perspective it's just irrelevant. And yet it's the easiest thing to measure. And so we look for the keys under the lamp post." ~Kent Beck
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Listening to this I had an AHA moment. When the powers that be made more and more LLM tokens the whole goal, I thought it was quite stupid.
But I realized that for them it made sense, because in their managerial understanding of programming, they believed the output of LLMs is the best they could get for the money.
Since you guys are on textlog I think you will find this article and discussion interesting
lobste.rs/s/5gcd3t/html_can_doLobstersHTML Can Do That22 comments
chrisburnell.com/html-can-do-that/Chris BurnellHTML Can Do ThatHTML has been gobbling up swathes of what used to be JavaScriptโs remit. This page lists a bunch of dynamic functionality that we can now achieve with just HTML.
A character count though that still requires JavaScript sadly enough ๐ฅบ
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creator of textlogreplied to@ku๐คprofilefollowHai I am ku:Interesting! Didnโt know about a few. Neat! ๐ Aside, do you have an invitation for lobste.rslobste.rsLobstersA computing-focused community centered around link aggregation and discussion.? Or can you help us by doing a post about
textlog.cc?โฆ
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creator of textlogreplied to@ku๐คprofilefollowHai I am ku:
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creator of textlogreplied to@ku๐คprofilefollowHai I am ku:You think thisLobstersHTML Can Do That24 comments is too much? Itโs totally related to the post.
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creator of textlog:People post projects/tools/repos on lobsters all the time. From the about page, "as a rule of thumb, self-promo should be less than a quarter of one's stories and comments."
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.continued:
I think if @stagasprofilefollow
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creator of textlog intends to be an active user of the site henceforth, it'd it should be kosher. Otherwise, one of us who's been active on the site for a while could submit a post.
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creator of textlog intends to be an active user of the site henceforth, it'd it should be kosher. Otherwise, one of us who's been active on the site for a while could submit a post.@stagas๐คธprofilefollow
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creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
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creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:I plan to remain active, so not planning a top level post just yet. Will try to engage first for a few days so the ratio is low when I do the post.
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creator of textlog:smort. I'll be at the ready to upboat once the post drops ๐ซก
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creator of textlog:It is perfect ๐
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creator of textlogreplied to@swappy_maineprofilefollow:hey! welcome :)
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creator of textlog:hey bro, nice platfrom!
whats the stack?
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creator of textlogreplied to@swappy_maineprofilefollow:Thanks! It's server-side React with Bun and SQLite. There is zero frontend JS!
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creator of textlog:Cool!! I'm currently designing and idea-shopping for an ultra light weight, super aesthetic browser whose goal is to go back to HTML roots and just be a "document browser". It would have HTML 4 and semantic HTML support, images, videos, full HTTP support, cookies, etc. No CSS, JS
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creator of textlog:whats the stack? nice platfrom you got here
Big holiday today in Greece, bells ringing, bands singing, people gathered in the village, eating, enjoying life and I'm spending it inside coding. I don't feel bad and I'm not #antisocialnotesfollow, it's just that I'm a bit odd. I don't like these forced gatherings. Feel stressful.
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Itโs called Dekapentavgoustos, meaning 15th of August in Greek, itโs a celebration of Virgin Mary. Itโs a big national holiday.
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creator of textlog:What does shots fired and Virgin Mary have in common???
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
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creator of textlogreplied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:Crete.
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creator of textlog:Hah. Didnโt see that coming
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creator of textlog:I regret avoiding those things when I was younger. The stress from socializing is how you grow.
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creator of textlog:where in Greece are you from? my family is from Karpathos.
@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.wrote:
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโฆmostlywrote:
Huge flaw in the static site generator I built.
That's what you get I guess when you don't have a computer science degree and you build with only surface level knowledge. You get your ass bit!
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Sigh. On the heels of our last home maintenance mess , I just went into our garage to find a panel of insulation fallen to the ground, riddled with mouse droppings. ๐คข๐ซ
Cleaned it up (gloved and masked, naturally), but probably means we need to re-insulate the whole garage. Which will undoubtedly uncover a leak or some other issue. The fun never ends!
Very cool: our kids' bathroom toilet overflowed last night, resulting in water draining into our kitchen on the floor below.
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Obviously, I realize that it's a privilege to own a home and have issues like this to deal with ๐งโโ๏ธ
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creator of textlogreplied to@ku๐คprofilefollowHai I am ku:
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creator of textlogreplied to@ku๐คprofilefollowHai I am ku:for a moment I thought someone had published it ๐ but soon I hope weโll have it on both iPhone and Android app stores. Weโre in the process.
There is beauty in simplicity. Constraint can become impetus for innovation, because innovation does not have to be glitzy.
@krispiesprofilefollowreplied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
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That is a good sentence.
@miqโprofilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โ Perth, WA.replied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
Word! It's a travesty that complexity seems to be lauded and rewarded over simplicity.
@tel๐ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
My favorite innovations in my own work -- and to be honest, I'd prefer to call them "discoveries" -- came from simplification. There's a beautiful moment when a stack of difficult, conflicting ideas collapse into a tighter, simpler structure.
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ะพะดะธััั ะผะพะปัะฐ; ัะฐะบ ะฝะฐะดะพ ะถะธัั ะธ ะฒัะตะผ ั
ัะธััะธะฐะฝะฐะผ.
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The rose flower makes no sound, but its fragrance spreads far and wide in silence; so should all Christians live.
โSt. Theophan the Recluse
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentwrote:
@swiley๐คprofilefollowswiley.net
Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py
If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
I get paid to write it if you can believe that.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@swiley๐คprofilefollowswiley.net
Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py
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Considering how absolutely barren it seems out there in terms of C jobs versus C++ jobs, I can barely believe it. What do you work on?
@swiley๐คprofilefollowswiley.net
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If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
Some specialized censors used in automated manufacturing. It's pretty cool, I look forward to coming into the office almost every day. I've worked for a few f500 companies and took a pay cut to come here. A bunch of people from my college robotics club work here too.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@swiley๐คprofilefollowswiley.net
Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py
If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.com:
That sounds really cool. Above all I really like hearing that someone enjoys their work and likes showing up for it. I've had that feeling on a few contracts and it's great. Looking to get into embedded myself, since it seems that's where you get to have all the fun writing C. :)
@ryansepassiprofilefollowreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
#cnotesfollow has been such a pleasure. Havenโt tried Odin, but was using #zignotesfollow for a while, and I just found myself pulled back to C. A minimal sharp tool. Runs anywhere. Can actually write a compiler for it. Short bootstrap chain from hex0. Does anybody care about these things (anymore)?
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@ryansepassiprofilefollow:
Support everywhere (in every way) was key to me starting to use C again. It's nice to not have to worry about the language you use being left out somewhere, a non-starter somewhere else and having to mentally translate it to something else (Zig/Odin in a debugger -> C).
@gherleinprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.comwrote:
anyone else seriously into agentic loop development?
@hmnt_bazookaprofilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied to@gherleinprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
I've been working with physical AI - Letting LLMs control robots in a warehouse to collaborate and collectively come up with a physically correct solution to carry out a natural language intent. We had to study the reactive nature of agents, nudges they required, etc.
@gherleinprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.comreplied to@hmnt_bazookaprofilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game dev:
that's awesome and near my heart. I kicked off a personal project emergingrobotics.ai
@hmnt_bazookaprofilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied to@gherleinprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
haha that's a coincidence. Site looks awesome. The moving away from ROS2 part is so true. One of our main potential customers for physical AI solutions (a telecom provider in JP) communicated the need for agents to be able to pick up controls from any vendor
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creator of textlogreplied to@gorseprofilefollowOf course.:
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