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@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comwrote:
while we wait for this to be true we could add our bits together remember to not sleep forever return when your dreams are through Start with cringy poem, end with cringy pseudocode. At least it comes naturally.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - donโ€™t. I did start with a question though.
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@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
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@geverprofilefollowwrote:
I recently made a 10 foot sailboat and took it on a fifty-mile adventure in the Salish Sea. I can still feel the way the wind pushed the boat over the water. I kept imagining the way that our progress was the sum of the vectors of wind, current, and gravity. #tinkeringnotesfollow
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearwrote:
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@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
The future is here. But instead of flying cars or holodeck, what you get is tracking cookies and captcha everywhere. Maybe someday you will need to have your rectum scanned by Google or Meta nee Facebook before your browser does a HTTP request.
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
This seems reasonable and motivates my bias. But I don't know what to believe anymore.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
Overvalued, maybe. Extremely valuable, yes, though.
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For sure. We're well past the point of being able to reasonably claim that the tools have no practical use. But I share the article's skepticism that LLM-based AI will "produce a fully automated drop-in replacement for most knowledge workers". Which it at this point has to in order to justify these companies' stupendous valuations.
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Tomorrow no but there will always be the โ€œhopeโ€ which is enough for the next 20 years before giving up. Which meanwhile would be replacing larger and larger chunks of the workforce so it wonโ€™t really matter, weโ€™ll be adjusting our lives around it as well so we meet in the middle.
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Tesla has been overvalued for over a decade with the promise of โ€œfully autonomous carsโ€ and itโ€™s still not losing its value, despite not meeting that (and probably never will, as the computation necessary to achieve it is bounded by physics).
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
That's a different situation. Tesla's a public company whose valuation is driven by the market, which has the right to be irrational. My understanding is that the AI buildout is financed such that the companies need to turn a profit by ~2030 or else they drown in capital costs.
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Or maybe the frontier labs become Tesla-like, if it turns out investors just want to believe in the dream and don't care about financials that don't make economic sense. I just don't see that happening, given current sentiment and the overwhelming unpopularity of AI in the West.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentwrote:
Who's enjoying #cnotesfollow in 2026? I'm back after ~14 years away (some sporadic once-in-a-while use in there) and I'm finding it better than ever, a smoother development experience and clearer code than pretty much every language out there, except for maybe #odinnotesfollow.
@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
I get paid to write it if you can believe that.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.com:
Considering how absolutely barren it seems out there in terms of C jobs versus C++ jobs, I can barely believe it. What do you work on?
@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
Some specialized censors used in automated manufacturing. It's pretty cool, I look forward to coming into the office almost every day. I've worked for a few f500 companies and took a pay cut to come here. A bunch of people from my college robotics club work here too.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.com:
That sounds really cool. Above all I really like hearing that someone enjoys their work and likes showing up for it. I've had that feeling on a few contracts and it's great. Looking to get into embedded myself, since it seems that's where you get to have all the fun writing C. :)
@ryansepassiprofilefollowreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
#cnotesfollow has been such a pleasure. Havenโ€™t tried Odin, but was using #zignotesfollow for a while, and I just found myself pulled back to C. A minimal sharp tool. Runs anywhere. Can actually write a compiler for it. Short bootstrap chain from hex0. Does anybody care about these things (anymore)?
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@ryansepassiprofilefollow:
Support everywhere (in every way) was key to me starting to use C again. It's nice to not have to worry about the language you use being left out somewhere, a non-starter somewhere else and having to mentally translate it to something else (Zig/Odin in a debugger -> C).