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@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
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@catastrofer🥸profilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
I need to re wire my brain a bit. Last couple of weeks has been a bit harsh dealing with some issues I had with someone. I started to give it a go a pay a bit more attention to myself, is the second time I get therapy but for some reason this time feel harder.
@semperos😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
So much present tense in #ainotesfollow generated prose. Terse, authoritative sentences, without breathing room, without hesitation or qualification. It jumps off the page, and not in a good way.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
What about the lack of density to paragraphs, the length of the sentences, or the confidence and determinism of their direction? Conviction with no limits. So reliably repetitive that you start seeing patterns as if you are looking and reading a record player with some scratches on it. Skips. Squeaks. Repeats. Yet. It gets the job done.
@semperos😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.:
Yet. It gets the job done. Here's where we disagree. Using these tools as part of the job, certainly. But if I am to read, discern meaning, analyze choices of diction and structure, consider the context both of the author and the audience, and finally derive value from the written word, then generative #ainotesfollow falls short on many levels. If the "job" is to produce something no one was ever intending to engage with, then we have a more fundamental question about the value of the job.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@semperos😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Maybe what I messaged read as a disagreement and mentioning that they get the job done was actually not about producing prose (of any quality). I wholeheartedly agreed and still agree with you. Getting the job done was more about producing output - be it some prose, images, videos, software, whatever. They do generate output. It is not to say that the output is meaningful or meaningless. Some souls do enjoy it. Some others - don’t. I did start with a question though.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.wrote:
@michaelprofilefollowMac user since before it was cool. Interested in #html, #css, #php, #swift, and lightweight software. Not really Windows compatible I suck at picking nicknames anyone interested in lightweight apps especially on macOS gets my follow
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
Writing. I want to do it, very badly. I just don't want to be bad at it. You have to be bad at it in order to get good at it. But... Catch 22 isn't it?
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@dcprofilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
I think reading helps quite a bit, especially writing about what you’ve read, even to yourself, just so you can go through the process of having to explain something that you’re only recently familiar with. There’s something about that process that seems to be helpful, at least to me.
@prtys🤡profilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
Same. The way I consume information influences how I think. Short form content makes my thinking fragmented without a clear structure. I feel that fragmented thinking won't lead to convincing writing. And I'm trying to regain some of that lost control.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlyreplied to@prtys🤡profilefollow:
Very interesting! I think something along those lines might be happening for me too. Another aspect, always cooking in the back of my mind, "if you can't explain it well, don't explain it at all."
@kev🧜profilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
The fear of being bad at it is the only thing holding you back. I experienced something like that with playing music with others. Perhaps you could learn to lay down your critical brain during the creation process and that good/bad isn't a useful distinction until later when you're editing your work.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlyreplied to@kev🧜profilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Yeah, this is pretty much what I can't do. My critical brain has a lot of power. It's very evolved at this point :/
@pqs🤪profilefollowreplied to@yonkeltron🤖profilefollow:
This may become a thing. Have you seen the results of PISA? School performance is going down in the OCDE and richer students are going down faster (they have more tech available). Maybe the future si for those who ditch the computers.
@austorprofilefollowwrote:
Team vim, team emacs, or team “my editor doesn’t start wars”? One line, no essays. Go!
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@semperos😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Thanks, I use a Kinesis Advantage 2 and it’s a big help. I’ve found avoiding holding down keys, with thumbs or otherwise, has been the biggest help.
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@semperos😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
ouhh bet thats nice. im rocking some 50€ aliexpress print/pcb that i put some old switches/caps onto. legitimately impressed, best keyboard i ever used, never going back to traditional kbs.
@sangaprofilefollowsober af!wrote:
I really love the feeling of a new social network app! Takes me back to high school when I first used facebook. Somehow makes it easy to share things.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
The pendulum has swung far in the direction of favouring machine generated content over that from actual people. I wonder when it will swing back?
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Bad night, first the boy woke up at midnight and went with him, then at 4 am heavy rain started so went to bring the bike to the terrace, then thunderstorm and kids were scary, then the cat meowed at 6am. I’m okay.
@lockbladeprofilefollowwrote:
At dragoncon, and it's even more than a zoo than I expected. way more people than I thought would be here on a Friday.
@moloprofilefollowwrote:
tech influencers on twitter: god i hate interacting with other people. i love my new bot that does it for me. life is so much better now that im just telling bots what to do and not talking to people. i can’t wait for everyone to be bots!
@mcclaskcprofilefollowIs mayonnaise an instrument? Email me if you want a pizza roll.wrote:
Is mayonnaise an instrument?