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๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
Anthropic is announcing the end of the world every few days. All this marketing disguised as news about an impeding danger of AI is tiresome.
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profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
not marketing. yes their jobs positively select for concern about ai, but most people that are actively researching the field are concerned about the current state of safety, pace and incentives. I dont agree with a lot anthropic does, but i do believe the employees take safety seriously and they obviously have a better understanding of it than us. also theres no incentive for someone like coxon to sound alarm bells on twitter for "marketing" reasons, after quitting anthropic
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied toprofilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Yes, but some people say that they are pushing for market regulation. They want the state to protect them from the chinese models and, also, to protect the massive investments in Anthropic, OpenaAI, et al. that these companies will never be able to return. This sounds plausible to me too.
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
there's a gentle kind of space not some echoing cave nor some incessant chirping flock more a darkened back room lit by a projector candid photos of your neighbors songs made only for friendly ears and the kind of brave words that rarely make it out of our hearts
If programming is the typing of characters into a text file, it is way worse. I think the key to learning is still doing it rather than reading it. If the question is about system design I think you can, but only if you curious and it becomes a problem that needs to be solved. Asking "What do you think" is one of my favorite questions to learn at the moment.
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I do think there will be what were hard earned lessons about system design, code smell, designing data structures for the hardware you're running on, concurrency golden paths, etc., which are now with agentic dev even harder to learn and internalize. But also if you have an excellent teacher in the form of an actually-good model pair programming with you always, maybe not? Maybe a pair programming AI programming tutor would be a good Zed/vscode extension. Or product.
profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerwrote:
i thought german state bureacracy was bad, until i had to go jump through the hoops of (an online retailers) coorporate hellhole of a dev program.
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my naive vibecoding ass thought everything that can be built can be shipped. compliance is a b*tch
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘“ ๐‘”๐‘ฎ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ช๐‘ฏ ยท๐‘š๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘ฉ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ข๐‘ฐ๐‘’๐‘ง๐‘ฏ๐‘›: ๐‘ฃ๐‘จ๐‘› ๐‘ฉ ๐‘“๐‘ซ๐‘ค ยท๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘ฆ๐‘– ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฉ ๐‘๐‘ฒ (๐‘ฎ๐‘จ๐‘š๐‘ฆ๐‘‘) ๐‘˜๐‘จ๐‘•๐‘‘๐‘ผ๐‘›๐‘ฑ, ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฌ ๐‘‘ ๐‘›๐‘ต ๐‘จ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘“ ๐‘ฎ๐‘ด๐‘•๐‘‘. ๐‘ค๐‘ณ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฏ ๐‘’๐‘ท๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฐ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ž๐‘ฆ๐‘• ๐‘ท๐‘‘๐‘ณ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฉ๐‘ค ๐‘ข๐‘จ๐‘ž๐‘ผ. Three for three on British dishes this weekend: had a full English and a pie (rabbit) yesterday, now to do a beef roast. Lovely and cozy in this autumnal weather.
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.wrote:
game dev with LLMs assisting on some of the engine legwork I learned to do over the years is the most fun programming I've had since I was 12 years old plucking away at the public library commodore 64
profilefollowphotography, art, solo dev, based in NYCwrote:
#ainotesfollow Installed Hermes Desktop and starting to build out my team of bots. My experience with Hermes so far has been great: it keeps surprising me by being what i need it to be ... but I'll reserve a final judgement until after a proper period of use.
profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
I find myself building bespoke tooling for my own #swdevnotesfollow and #ainotesfollow workflows these days, not only because of the obvious reason of software being so much cheaper to build, but also because there are SO MANY options for solving any given problem that it feels impossible to evaluate all of them. If it's not a crucial piece of tech for a work problem then it often feels like paving my own way is both cheaper mentally (kind of amazing that's true these days) and probably a better fit.
..then of course I have to contend with - "Is this going to be a maintenance nightmare in the future?" and then I still usually conclude "no, the maintenance will be aided by the same approach that the construction was". It's interesting how dramatically and quickly the scales have changed in this equation - and for such a wide range of software.
For example, I am looking for a coding agent coordinator with a particular (but not all that insane) set of requirements. I used both Claude and Perplexity to show me options and break them down by fit against my requirements. I got completely different lists! No overlap! And no perfect fits.
๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
I've been on a kick lately of trying to visualize the oscillating clock, and ultimately the effectively arbitrarily complex activity of a computer processor, as modern refinements of the line shaft factory of the 19th century. Of compute as being not much more than profoundly refined "work" delivered by the electrical grid into marvelously complex machines. Does that, as a metaphor at least, feel as important to you as it has to me of late? We spend so much time in a world abstracted.
The essence of aligning large LLM models is basically to conform to the existing social order. ChatGPT respects China's order, while China's open-source models, although reluctantly, also tolerate the order in the US. Maybe we can build a revisionist SFT dataset.
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ๅฏนไบŽๆ•ดไธชไบ’่”็ฝ‘ๅކๅฒ๏ผŒๆˆ‘ๅฏ่ฏดๅŸบๆœฌไธŠๆ˜ฏไธ€ไธชๆ—่ง‚่€…๏ผŒๆˆ‘ไธ€็›ดๅœจๆถˆ่ดนๅ†…ๅฎน๏ผŒไฝ†ๆ˜ฏๆฒกๆœ‰็”Ÿไบง่ฟ‡ไป€ไนˆๅ†…ๅฎน๏ผŒไบ’่”็ฝ‘ไธŠๆฒกๆœ‰ๆˆ‘็š„็—•่ฟน๏ผŒ่ฟ™ๆ˜ฏๆ„ๅค–ๅŽๆžœ๏ผŒๅ› ไธบไธญๅ›ฝ็š„่บซไปฝๅ’Œๅ†…ๅฎนๆ”ฟ็ญ–
Regarding the entire history of the internet, I can say I've been largely an observer. I've always consumed content, but I haven't produced any. There's no trace of me on the internet, which is an unforeseen consequence due to China's identity and content policies.
ๆˆ‘ไธๅคชๆ˜Ž็™ฝไธญๅ›ฝ็š„โ€œ้˜ฒ็ซ้•ฟๅŸŽโ€ๆ˜ฏๆ€Žไนˆ่ฟไฝœ็š„ใ€‚ๆฏ”ๅฆ‚่ฏด๏ผŒไฝ ๅˆฐๅบ•ๆ˜ฏๆ€Žไนˆ่ฎฟ้—ฎ่ฟ™ไธช็ฝ‘็ซ™็š„๏ผŸ ๏ผˆๆˆ‘ๆ˜ฏๅœจ้€š่ฟ‡็ฟป่ฏ‘่ฝฏไปถๅ’Œไฝ ไบคๆตใ€‚๏ผ‰
I don't quite understand how China's "Great Firewall" works. For example, how exactly did you access this website? (I'm communicating with you through translation software.)
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