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@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.wrote:
I love the "feel" of this place. It's minimal, but not too minimal. Nice work! I'm probably gonna be a little chatty on here. If anyone minds that, then just @ me :-) #launchnotesfollow
@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.continued:
Also, thank you for not turning my emoticons into emoji!! As someone from the pre-internet era, I appreciate that :-)
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@carbonwriter๐Ÿงœprofilefollow(\ (\ ( โ€ข โ€ข) โ”โˆชโˆชโ”โ”โ”โ” Full of mostly true stories, I occasionally write them down. Habit of talking to anyone. Bipolar. Author.:
But can we use emoji if we want? ๐Ÿค”
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@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comreplied to@egeprofilefollowcheck out my blog: hypersubject.netege's webloghypersubject.netHi! Iโ€™m ege. Welcome to my corner of cyberspace. The following is for you to make sense of who I am. It is an attempt to make myself legible to you. So you can label and categorize me and decide if Iโ€™m worthy of your time and attention.:
When I write I just add html files to the swiley.net folder in public.swiley.net. Sometimes I syndicate elsewhere (I was doing Substack for a while before Notes took over.)
@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.replied to@egeprofilefollowcheck out my blog: hypersubject.netege's webloghypersubject.netHi! Iโ€™m ege. Welcome to my corner of cyberspace. The following is for you to make sense of who I am. It is an attempt to make myself legible to you. So you can label and categorize me and decide if Iโ€™m worthy of your time and attention.:
thechels.uk is mine, thanks :-)
@nateprofilefollowI'm into old computers, breakfast diners, doom metal, and r/catswiththumbs.replied to@egeprofilefollowcheck out my blog: hypersubject.netege's webloghypersubject.netHi! Iโ€™m ege. Welcome to my corner of cyberspace. The following is for you to make sense of who I am. It is an attempt to make myself legible to you. So you can label and categorize me and decide if Iโ€™m worthy of your time and attention.:
I recently wrote about why you shouldn't use your phone while you poopNate.spotDon't use your phone while you poop!Your brain needs to offload just as badly as your butt does. I know it sounds boring to sit in there, alone, naked from the waist down, staring at the wal...
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@lanesprofilefollowlanes.shLanesLanes | Your unfair advantage in parallel AI developmentOne workspace. Many agents. Your unfair advantage in parallel AI development. Plan, run, and ship with full oversight.:
What is the exact definition of an IDE? JetBrain's products are as good as ever, in my opinion, but people have definitely made non-IDEs into big, hulking behemoths with tons of plugins. If anything, maybe "just an editor" is dead?
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
I think they mean the transition that all IDE's are making towards an agentic interface, hiding the code completely as humans will not have to interact with it since the AI will be doing a better job at everything, even auditing it.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Oh, I guess I'm not really up-to-date on what IDEs are doing. Good point.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
@pcprofilefollowwrote:
When I was 10, I thought I'd be a scientist I wanted to tinker in a lab, doing something with beakers and bunsen burners Making a difference. As an adult, I sit in meetings and discuss who to fire next I tinker with spreadsheets, doing something with LLMs and JIRA Be enthusiastic #poemnotesfollow #aifearnotesfollow
@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@pcprofilefollow:
As young kid I dreamed of working with reel-to-reel machines Cutting/splicing tape, happy accidents As a teen I couldn't afford reel-to-reel but got decent with multi-track cassettes Everyone was telling me digital was The Way (tm) In my 30s, I finally learned how to use a DAW properly In my 40s, I'm back to playing around with multi-tracks cassettes There is no money in it, but I'm enthusiastic as I can be (this is not so much as direct response as simply a response) #musicnotesfollow #aifearnotesfollow
@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
ai coding feels like it has reached diminishing returns for me. luna is my default orchestrator, routing work by complexity. in practice, usage lands around 16% luna, 48% sol, 30% astra, and 6% terra. at this point, i care less about each new frontier release. the system already finds a capable model for the job. the frontier is moving beyond my day-to-day work, so iโ€™m happy to settle into predictable models for a while. #ainotesfollow #programmingnotesfollow #agentnotesfollow #technotesfollow
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Iโ€™ve found the same, albeit with Opus โ€” itโ€™s hard to find uses for Fable. I donโ€™t need a model that works for longer or works on harder problems, I need one that consistently produces simple, easy to understand, code; which at this point none of them do.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
I've been there since I settled on a combination of GLM, DeepSeek and MiMo for planning, implementation, and verification flows. I'm a lot more interested at this point in having cheaper models that can consistently do the work I need. It's been a while that I hanven't noticed any improvement when I try new frontier models. I only notice they are very expensive.
@b0rgprofilefollowreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
same here, for almost an year. At this point, I could easily live with models that were released 6-12 months ago and continue doing so. also possibly the reason why the current focus has been around agentic workflows or agentic anything, than the model capabilities.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@javisrike๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿš€profilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
Coding probably yeah, but still they are bad at generating novel information, new ideas and such. Theyโ€™re also not very good at seeing the bigger picture, they will narrowly perform the task but theyโ€™re not taking into account future revisions, which ends up in refactor after refactor in order to move forward.
@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always onlinewrote:
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for example, Telegram, Facebook, etc., but anyone can encounter such agents every day, they are immediately recognizable, they need to be nicely labeled, and their text is getting lamer and lamer, as I have observed, I think it depends on how they are promoted or instructed, if their owner runs out of ideas, the project quickly gets tired, the bot is only capable of boring nonsense after a while