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@edwin๐Ÿ˜ฌprofilefollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
If programming is the typing of characters into a text file, it is way worse. I think the key to learning is still doing it rather than reading it. If the question is about system design I think you can, but only if you curious and it becomes a problem that needs to be solved. Asking "What do you think" is one of my favorite questions to learn at the moment.
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I do think there will be what were hard earned lessons about system design, code smell, designing data structures for the hardware you're running on, concurrency golden paths, etc., which are now with agentic dev even harder to learn and internalize. But also if you have an excellent teacher in the form of an actually-good model pair programming with you always, maybe not? Maybe a pair programming AI programming tutor would be a good Zed/vscode extension. Or product.
@pcprofilefollowwrote:
When I was 10, I thought I'd be a scientist I wanted to tinker in a lab, doing something with beakers and bunsen burners Making a difference. As an adult, I sit in meetings and discuss who to fire next I tinker with spreadsheets, doing something with LLMs and JIRA Be enthusiastic #poemnotesfollow #aifearnotesfollow
@sodapopcanprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied to@pcprofilefollow:
As young kid I dreamed of working with reel-to-reel machines Cutting/splicing tape, happy accidents As a teen I couldn't afford reel-to-reel but got decent with multi-track cassettes Everyone was telling me digital was The Way (tm) In my 30s, I finally learned how to use a DAW properly In my 40s, I'm back to playing around with multi-tracks cassettes There is no money in it, but I'm enthusiastic as I can be (this is not so much as direct response as simply a response) #musicnotesfollow #aifearnotesfollow
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@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
Med dyp respekt minnes vi kong Harald av Norge som gikk bort i morgentimene i dag. Fred over hans minne. Vรฅre tanker er hos den som har mistet en mann, de som har mistet en far og svigerfar, barn som har mistet en bestefar. Og et helt land som har mistet en konge. Mรฅ Gud styrke han som fรธlger etter. #norwaynotesfollow #kingharaldnotesfollow
With deep respect we remember King Harald of Norway who passed away in the early hours of this morning. May his memory rest in peace. Our thoughts are with those who have lost a husband, those who have lost a father and father-in-law, children who have lost a grandfather. And an entire country that has lost a king. May God strengthen those who follow. #norwaynotesfollow #kingharaldnotesfollow
@kidk๐Ÿ˜คprofilefollowwrote:
Been sorting packages all evening. I don't work for the post office. I do this for fun, I think. Maybe I just like to automate things and make them perfect. #gamesnotesfollow store.steampowered.com/โ€ฆ/Parcel_Simulator/store.steampowered.comSave 30% on Parcel Simulator on SteamInspect and process parcels and packages in this parcel inspection simulator! Receive and sort deliveries, examine labels for mistakes, and automate to maximise warehouse efficiency. Upgrade and expand your warehouse to build your parcel empire!
@hippo๐Ÿฆ›profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!:
Deterministic code generation is fine by me. Quite happy to use templating systems for example. Problems occur when randomness is introduced. If you can avoid that it should be less "icky".
@cgast๐Ÿ“ถprofilefollowcurious & creativewrote:
What if AI will never reach full autonomy and humans are still needed to give direction and purpose and take responsibility - probably... not all humans like to be masters of AIs all day long and not all (who want to) can do that equally well.
@gruntprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comwrote:
"If you don't think of yourself years ago as an idiot... Perhaps it is because you still are one." In that spirit I started to write down my own thoughts. I think I am meant to call it a blog. Years from now I can read my old words and cringe at them. www.gruntsoft.com/words/
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
Anthropic is announcing the end of the world every few days. All this marketing disguised as news about an impeding danger of AI is tiresome.
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@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
not marketing. yes their jobs positively select for concern about ai, but most people that are actively researching the field are concerned about the current state of safety, pace and incentives. I dont agree with a lot anthropic does, but i do believe the employees take safety seriously and they obviously have a better understanding of it than us. also theres no incentive for someone like coxon to sound alarm bells on twitter for "marketing" reasons, after quitting anthropic
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Yes, but some people say that they are pushing for market regulation. They want the state to protect them from the chinese models and, also, to protect the massive investments in Anthropic, OpenaAI, et al. that these companies will never be able to return. This sounds plausible to me too.
@prophetorit๐Ÿ’งprofilefollowgrand and intoxicating innocence always onlinewrote:
things I wish that lasted longer lip combo food papyrus gnostics my makeup
@jagsprofilefollowwrote:
"No hay nada mรก i inmune que el que todo lo perdiรณ"
"There is nothing more immune than he who has lost everything."
@swiley๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comwrote:
A lot of people write so much software to sandbox their AI agents. I say don't bother. Just give your agent its own non-admin local user account. It's easier and much more effective.
@jgprofilefollowNew herewrote:
Bonnie Raitt stuck in my head, who, by some definition, is a nepo baby, but well before the term was coined. I think the problem is obv not family businesses, but a shrinking pool of opportunities for those without a prebuilt network to inherit (or buy).
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
The inaugural, proverbial first post. Seems like a lovely service here.
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
The proverbial first post should have been โ€œhello worldโ€. :-P You are the first rustacean I come across!