anyone else seriously into agentic loop development?
Any conversation
@hmnt_bazookaprofilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied to@gherleinprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
I've been working with physical AI - Letting LLMs control robots in a warehouse to collaborate and collectively come up with a physically correct solution to carry out a natural language intent. We had to study the reactive nature of agents, nudges they required, etc.
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that's awesome and near my heart. I kicked off a personal project emergingrobotics.ai
@hmnt_bazookaprofilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied to@gherleinprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
haha that's a coincidence. Site looks awesome. The moving away from ROS2 part is so true. One of our main potential customers for physical AI solutions (a telecom provider in JP) communicated the need for agents to be able to pick up controls from any vendor
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creator of textlogreplied to@thomasprofilefollowHuman bean:Uhm, not really. Activity Pub comes with a lot more features we don't need - we want to keep this simple and text-only
So we can't use em dash anymore — lest we anger the mob. Truth be told though, English teachers have always discouraged em dash overuse because it is a subtle art and very easy to get wrong.
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creator of textlogreplied to@ku🤔profilefollowHai I am ku:I started to become fond of it after seeing it so often by the LLM, I even installed an extension on Chrome, SmartType, that converts glyphs like minus to em dash wherever it’s needed among others, pretty neat.
The funny thing is that in the UK, we don't really use the em dash anyway. We use the hyphen (I guess en dash?) with a space each side. So the em dash has always looked a bit odd to us... 😊
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There are dashes (-), as well as en dashes (–), and there are em dashes (—), not to miss the mighty center dot (•) that looks like a perky boob when surrounded by brackets haha
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Just get and read Chicago Manual of Style, or Oxford Style Manual if you so prefer, and you’re all set to use the various dash’es (and many other things).
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:Well, I think my IRCd (Eris v2) is close to be complete.
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:🥳
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
Can really relate to thisNicholas CharriereBeing ambitious and being a dad | Nicholas Charriere
Past year's personal projects that went viral:
hallucinatehallucinate.site
The Front PageThe Front PageThe Front PageA newspaper-style front page for Hacker News.
groovemastergroovemastergroovemaster - Code musicCode music in the browser.
textlogtextloghotThe quieter social microblogging platform.
Yet I'm poor and can't get an interview :S how do I solve this?
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@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@stagas🤸profilefollow
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creator of textlog:personal projects probably just arent the right knob if you want to get unpoor. if you want my honest advice i would recommend not showing hallucinate to potential employers, its landing page looks one-shot claude and is gpu heavy. but the others look very nice.
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creator of textlog:nice to hear though! did you like it? living in berlin for 6 years now
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creator of textlogreplied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:loved it, I visit whenever I can, it's my favorite place on earth :D tried to live there many times, even had a job two times but it didn't work out. The air is different.
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creator of textlog:its a rough but very lovable place i agree ^^ maybe youll find your way back!
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
Lot of wildlife run-ins on my neighborhood trails this week. Ran past three deer yesterday, including a buck. Then a hare as I made it to the top of San Pedro Mountain this morning.
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"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied to@chenxiangprofilefollow:
"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied to@chenxiangprofilefollow:当然!そして日本語でも!
Of course! And in Japanese too!
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Power and money somehow emit the whackadoodle in all of us.
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I actually disagree. This guy has been very good at performing The Good Guy for a very long time, but there have been signs all along.
Well said. My post was glib.
More correctly, they are multipliers. Same goes for Musk.
"Musk’s ex-wife Justine, whom he married in 2000 and divorced in 2008, says the man the world began to see in 2020 was the one she’d always known." -slate.com
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This seems reasonable and motivates my bias. But I don't know what to believe anymore.
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creator of textlog:For sure. We're well past the point of being able to reasonably claim that the tools have no practical use.
But I share the article's skepticism that LLM-based AI will "produce a fully automated drop-in replacement for most knowledge workers". Which it at this point has to in order to justify these companies' stupendous valuations.
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creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:Tomorrow no but there will always be the “hope” which is enough for the next 20 years before giving up. Which meanwhile would be replacing larger and larger chunks of the workforce so it won’t really matter, we’ll be adjusting our lives around it as well so we meet in the middle.
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creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain · A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:Tesla has been overvalued for over a decade with the promise of “fully autonomous cars” and it’s still not losing its value, despite not meeting that (and probably never will, as the computation necessary to achieve it is bounded by physics).
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creator of textlog:That's a different situation. Tesla's a public company whose valuation is driven by the market, which has the right to be irrational. My understanding is that the AI buildout is financed such that the companies need to turn a profit by ~2030 or else they drown in capital costs.
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Or maybe the frontier labs become Tesla-like, if it turns out investors just want to believe in the dream and don't care about financials that don't make economic sense. I just don't see that happening, given current sentiment and the overwhelming unpopularity of AI in the West.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
Writing.
I want to do it, very badly.
I just don't want to be bad at it.
You have to be bad at it in order to get good at it. But...
Catch 22 isn't it?
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@dcprofilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
I think reading helps quite a bit, especially writing about what you’ve read, even to yourself, just so you can go through the process of having to explain something that you’re only recently familiar with. There’s something about that process that seems to be helpful, at least to me.
@prtys🤡profilefollowreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
Same.
The way I consume information influences how I think. Short form content makes my thinking fragmented without a clear structure. I feel that fragmented thinking won't lead to convincing writing. And I'm trying to regain some of that lost control.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlyreplied to@prtys🤡profilefollow:
Very interesting! I think something along those lines might be happening for me too.
Another aspect, always cooking in the back of my mind, "if you can't explain it well, don't explain it at all."
@kev🧜profilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
The fear of being bad at it is the only thing holding you back. I experienced something like that with playing music with others. Perhaps you could learn to lay down your critical brain during the creation process and that good/bad isn't a useful distinction until later when you're editing your work.
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlyreplied to@kev🧜profilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Yeah, this is pretty much what I can't do. My critical brain has a lot of power. It's very evolved at this point :/
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs🤪profilefollow:I'm 55 and recently self-diagnosed as "fairly ASD with some ADHD" after watching a lot of youtube videos. It's been immensely helpful (to the point of bringing me to tears sometimes) in understanding the struggles I had when I was younger. It's also been very helpful in understanding what I can do currently to support myself and work with my brain instead of against it.
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelic:I'm glad it was useful to you. This process of becoming aware of our autism is not easy. It is liberating, but it is also difficult, at the same time.
I watched a lot of videos too, but then I visited a couple psiquiatrists and a psycologist (I had other problems too), just to be sure.
What is your opinion about the ASD youtube landscape? I think that there are a few very good channels, but there is lot of noise too. I see some danger there.
Those "10 signs you may be [or not be] autistic" seem quite dangerous to me. Neurodivergence can be tricky.
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs🤪profilefollow:Yeah. I do like them sometimes, but the good authors are careful to start the video with looots of caveats (e.g. "this is not how to diagnose, just something that's maybe helpful").
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retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs🤪profilefollow:
retired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicreplied to@pqs🤪profilefollow:Yeah I agree that there are many ASD channels on YT of varying qualities. I only follow a few. Some of my favorites (very roughly in order):
I think for now being self diagnosed is enough for me. Just knowing that I'm neurodivergent has been helpful for me to be kind to my own mind.
@MomontheSpectrum@imautisticnowwhat@elenacarr0ll-- kinda more emotive, but I find that helpful sometimes@autismfromtheInside-- no longer posts (burned out)
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creator of textlogreplied to@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:Soon, a tablet stand where you type in “what do you feel like eating today?”, and it suggests the best and freshest products.
or just talk to it.
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