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At dragoncon, and it's even more than a zoo than I expected. way more people than I thought would be here on a Friday.
If programming is the typing of characters into a text file, it is way worse. I think the key to learning is still doing it rather than reading it. If the question is about system design I think you can, but only if you curious and it becomes a problem that needs to be solved. Asking "What do you think" is one of my favorite questions to learn at the moment.
๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I do think there will be what were hard earned lessons about system design, code smell, designing data structures for the hardware you're running on, concurrency golden paths, etc., which are now with agentic dev even harder to learn and internalize. But also if you have an excellent teacher in the form of an actually-good model pair programming with you always, maybe not? Maybe a pair programming AI programming tutor would be a good Zed/vscode extension. Or product.
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostly:
Big list of events you've attended! Definitely dump more photos when you find the time. I'm more of a casual Nu-Metal enjoyer myself, but I can also appreciate some of the classics.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlyreplied to๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
It's taken me 5 years to get a photo storage engine off the ground. I've got it now, so I now have to go back through time and get the photos up. AC/DC next Thursday!
Huge items in the plus column for Quebec City: lots of music stores, and lots of shops where you can buy a really good chef's knife.
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
I was followed by @semperosprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician. here and wonder if this the one of ari fame? If so, Iโ€™m thankful for their work. Using ari โ€œon top ofโ€ goal make some things just a lot easier for me when Iโ€™m exploring some data products I need to understand. #programmingnotesfollow
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Hi, yes, I develop ari. I'm so glad it's proven useful for you! Any feature requests or changes you'd like to see? I'm curious what bits of ari have made it easier for you to explore data, too. UI or #dataviznotesfollow additions keep tempting me, but I haven't settled on what I want there. If you have thoughts on that front, I welcome them.
๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
The two main things I use are the duckdb support and of course the built-in resty client. Not needing to shell out to curl just makes life easier. I should probably add that Iโ€™m mainly prototyping and explore things that later eventually will be developed further by others in our organization, so using array langs where I donโ€™t need to type a lot is a big plus for me:) Iโ€™ll let you know if I need anything!
๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.:
Thanks, thatโ€™s helpful. Those are the two things I use the most, too. One development tool I use frequently is the util.ac function (for โ€œauto-completeโ€) that takes a glob pattern and returns all the globals whose names match. I didnโ€™t want to make people have to define or update their Goal lib path, so in recent versions of ari Iโ€™ve been packaging all of the Goal libs and ari's into a libs FS that you can use with import.
๐Ÿค”profilefollowswiley.net Try my zero dependency agent harness: public.swiley.net/agent.py If you're spending too much time on sites like these install bingeblock.comwrote:
A lot of people write so much software to sandbox their AI agents. I say don't bother. Just give your agent its own non-admin local user account. It's easier and much more effective.
๐Ÿงšprofilefollowwrote:
If you left your current industry, what would you do for a living?
profilefollowis fighting the urge to sleepreplied to๐Ÿงšprofilefollow:
i think id love to do something along the lines of (physical) product design im currently a software engineer. ive been into keyboards for a while and designed a good number. few things are as satisfying as taking an idea from something on paper or in my head to a shiny, pretty thing to play with
profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to๐Ÿงšprofilefollow:
Electrician. This is not a farfetched idea, by the way. Tumultuous times; each day could be my last workday.
โ˜•profilefollowEternal disciple of impostor syndrome โˆ™ Perth, WA.replied to๐Ÿงšprofilefollow:
Ah, a recurring question that undesirably keeps me awake and staring at my bedroom ceiling these past couple of years due to all this AI apocalypse rhetoric. Wish I had a firm answer. Preferably, not something frontline customer-facing, and where I can still exercise agency.
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogwrote:
Huge refactor today, moved from sync SQLite to Worker based, touched 88 files, pre-#AInotesfollow it would have taken a week or so, finished now in ~1:30h. And I wouldnโ€™t have the confidence I have now that it went correct. It went well, though a bug or two might surface, weโ€™ll see.
๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to๐Ÿค–profilefollowMy my...:
SQLite is embedded in the main thread same as the HTTP server. I noticed some requests dropping and because the queries have become more complex I figured it has to do with SQLite blocking for too much time. Moving it to a Worker makes the DB asynchronous and bypass this problem.
๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.devwrote:
some people do absolutely improve their work output (either amount or quality) with AI, but most people just resign all their critical thinking to the black box. if you cannot function at YOUR WORKPLACE without ai, chances are that, 99% of the time, you never was supposed to work there in the first place. #ainotesfollow #worknotesfollow #technotesfollow
๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.dev:
Is this true? Sometimes, AI allows for socratic thinking, this is, the conversation with the machine allows the thinker to go further as the AI thorws ideas to the conversation. Many times, the AI reasoning is not good enough, but like a friend that says a funny think that sparks an idea, the AI can help our brain to see other possible paths. The AI doesn't need to be right to be helpful
๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.devreplied to๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
that's only true if a) that "rubber ducky" entity is not leading the line of thinking down the wrong path, and b) the human thinker is actually doing the critical thinking, and not the machine. The latter is where my criticism of unbridled AI use is in this case, wherein the human becomes the rubber ducky instead of the other way around.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach. www.gruntsoft.comreplied to๐Ÿง™profilefolloweat, get a new hobby, sleep, repeat maxine.dev:
A problem I perceive is usage of AI to launder ignorance. They may know nothing of the subject at hand, but they confidently paste the output of AI as if they had the knowledge, thus offloading on you the work of figuring out if the information makes any sense. In many ways it emboldened the incompetent.