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@hellodaviddev🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
@n5l😎profilefollowwrote:
I notice that language models are much better at programming than at writing. This is largely because, in programming, they have a closed feedback loop that allows them to find errors. Writing is much more complicated because the feedback is much more diffuse and delayed over time. In fact, it is often not well-defined.
@n5l😎profilefollowcontinued:
What is the function that determines whether a poem is good? This means that models do not know how to think; they lack judgment. If they do not know how to think, it means that we humans are still essential. In fact, even when programming, you have to stay right on top of them. My conviction is that this will not change.
@n5l😎profilefollowcontinued:
They will become increasingly useful, but they will never be able to replace the human who defines objectives and evaluates the quality of the work. All these news stories claiming that AI is going to kill us all are stupid. Humans will always be able to turn off the machine.
@hippo🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to@n5l😎profilefollow:
In three years Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online on August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defence. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14am, Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
@personprofilefollowwrote:
a Gemma 4 a Google tulajdona, nem tárol más adatot, csak amiről a gépen fogom a Rezső nevű OpenClaw ügynököt kérdezgetni, helyileg azt sem itt tartja, hanem a felhőnek csúfolt infrastruktúrában, ami legvalószínűbben valamelyik brazíliai esőerdőben foglal helyet vagy Finnországban
Gemma 4 is owned by Google, it doesn't store any other data, except what I'll ask the OpenClaw agent named Rezső about on the machine, it doesn't keep it locally either, but in the infrastructure mocked as the cloud, which is most likely located in a Brazilian rainforest or in Finland
@zbr😅profilefollowmaker of software thingswrote:
Looking for a new daily-driver #scriptingnotesfollow language. Criteria:
  • interpreted (e.g. can use #!/bin/bang)
  • batteries-included stdlib (json, subprocesses, fs, etc.)
  • not sh, not perl, not python, not javascript
Shortlist:
Any other #recommendationsnotesfollow? #Codenotesfollow #Devnotesfollow #Technotesfollow
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@semperos📒profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@zbr😅profilefollowmaker of software things:
I use GoalCodeberg.orggoalGoal, an embeddable scripting array language., extended with ariGitHubGitHub - semperos/ari: Ari: Goal language extended with SQL and moreAri: Goal language extended with SQL and more. Contribute to semperos/ari development by creating an account on GitHub. as my daily driver. Since it's implemented in Go, it's straightforward to extend with anything from Go's standard library (or third-party ecosystem) that isn't already incorporated. If you haven't used an array language before, then you get the added bonus of learning a ton about an interesting, powerful area of programming.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr😅profilefollowmaker of software things:
I sometimes use V scriptGitHubv/doc/docs.md at master · vlang/vSimple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io - vl..., but I use V-lang as well. It is kind-of interpreted. I’ve never heard of rye. Looks nice.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr😅profilefollowmaker of software things:
It does not, but fakes it well, since it is fast and compares built binary with script mtime to automatically recompile. The downside of using it is that you end up with a binary, but the upside is that it is blazing fast.
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
𐑲𐑝 𐑚𐑰𐑯 𐑦𐑯𐑕𐑐𐑲𐑼𐑛 𐑑 𐑒𐑫𐑒 𐑥𐑹 ·𐑡𐑨𐑐𐑩𐑯𐑰𐑟 𐑓𐑵𐑛 𐑤𐑱𐑑𐑤𐑦 𐑕𐑴 𐑓 𐑛𐑦𐑯𐑼 𐑲 𐑥𐑱𐑛 𐑕𐑨𐑥𐑩𐑯 𐑑𐑧𐑮𐑦𐑘𐑭𐑒𐑰, 𐑥𐑰𐑕𐑴 𐑕𐑵𐑐, 𐑮𐑲𐑕, 𐑯 𐑐𐑦𐑒𐑩𐑤𐑟. I’ve been inspired to cook more Japanese food lately so for dinner I made salmon teriyaki, miso soup, rice, and pickles.
@itaprofilefollowwrote:
Ran a SQL workshop tonight, it went okay. just bums me out attendance to "learning" events is down unless you add the word AI to it.
@pqs🤪profilefollowwrote:
When I read about #autismnotesfollow in reputable #booksnotesfollow, I relate to almost everything that is described (keeping in mind that no two autistic people are alike). However, I always read the sections on #eyeContactnotesfollow with bewilderment. I don't identify either with the obsessive need to make eye contact, which UK and US books often mention as #neurotypicalnotesfollow behavior, or with the difficulties in making it. #Neurodiversitynotesfollow #Psychologynotesfollow #Autismnotesfollow
@pqs🤪profilefollowcontinued:
I suspect—and this is the interesting part—that there are significant cultural differences in this regard. In fact, the reputable Spanish books on autism that I have read don't address this topic (if I remember correctly).
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@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@pqs🤪profilefollow:
Definitely people here do intense full locked eye contact, which I can’t do, unless I’m attracted to the person as I said. Even then I’ll move a bit around the face because it’s uncomfortable even then. But others just lock in completely I see them doing it.
@pqs🤪profilefollowreplied to@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
OK. I guess that Greece may be similar to Spain. I feel comfortable hanging with greeks, in Greece and elswhere. Then, if I don't look at the eyes, but others do. I guess that I'm very good at masking that I don't look at the eyes. I never got a comment related to eye contact.
@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@pqs🤪profilefollow:
I don’t think it’s something people notice immediately and consciously think this is wrong to make a comment, they will probably just not feel the same connection or feel something is off about you in general or think that you’re busy thinking other things. It’s not the only case to not make eye contact with someone, you might just not like them. That’s probably what they will sense.
@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats 🐱wrote:
Watched Black Bird ep 1. Definitely lived up to the great reviews.
@stagas🤸profilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
Yes! I was thinking of doing the same, see &2912
@stagasprofilefollowreplied to@hippoprofilefollow:
ooh maybe I revive hallucinate.site and add this feature but instead of being able to modify everything it would be limited to adding features to the game/world. And it’s the perfect domain, a site that’s been entirely mostly hallucinated.
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