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@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
I find myself building bespoke tooling for my own #swdevnotesfollow and #ainotesfollow workflows these days, not only because of the obvious reason of software being so much cheaper to build, but also because there are SO MANY options for solving any given problem that it feels impossible to evaluate all of them. If it's not a crucial piece of tech for a work problem then it often feels like paving my own way is both cheaper mentally (kind of amazing that's true these days) and probably a better fit.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
..then of course I have to contend with - "Is this going to be a maintenance nightmare in the future?" and then I still usually conclude "no, the maintenance will be aided by the same approach that the construction was". It's interesting how dramatically and quickly the scales have changed in this equation - and for such a wide range of software.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
For example, I am looking for a coding agent coordinator with a particular (but not all that insane) set of requirements. I used both Claude and Perplexity to show me options and break them down by fit against my requirements. I got completely different lists! No overlap! And no perfect fits.
@gikkmanprofilefollowwrote:
Do you code in silence or do you listen to music? If so, what kind of music do you prefer? Personally, I prefer Synthwave, vaporwave or the occasional country.
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@rickyprofilefollow#Automationnotesfollow specialist for #CreditUnionsnotesfollow; 20+ year #SharePointnotesfollow veteran; #developernotesfollow; #writernotesfollow. I don't idle well.replied to@gikkmanprofilefollow:
The vast majority of the time I prefer silence. Unlike @stagasprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog, my #ADHDnotesfollow gets distracted with music. When I do listen to music, it has to be no vocals. I find #SpaceMusicnotesfollow, like Jonn Serrie, Brian Eno, and Steve Roach best for me.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to@gikkmanprofilefollow:
I used to listen to marketing team say zingers like
  • twenty twenty vision in $current_year (before 2020)
  • I don't disagree but... (What does that even meanโ€ฝ)
Because office floor plans I am very thankful to work from home now... In complete silence.
@gikkmanprofilefollowreplied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Oh wow, this I feel in my soul. I am so glad I work from my own office nowadays and don't need to listen to these constant non-conversations marketing people tends to have
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@gikkmanprofilefollow:
Often silence, for me. I could create a (narrow) bell curve of problems where I listen to music. If I'm doing light enough work then I don't tend to listen to music, probably just out of habit - but as I approach problems of a certain complexity then I do prefer music. I just find that complexity band is narrow and past it I need to turn off the music. I would like to widen my music band. My preference is usually ambient - I like Gaussian curve and Hiroshi Yoshimura
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Personally, I think I found good framework/vocabulary to help with meditation in some discussion by Jiddu Krishnamurti. Here is one in which he works it out with kids www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yv0BKtgqpQYouTubeJ. Krishnamurti - Rishi Valley 1978 - School Discussion (Students) 3 - Can you... There was a short, to the point lecture where he basically walks you through observing thought, which profoundly changed how I approach meditation but I can't find it for the life of me!
@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingswrote:
Looking for a new daily-driver #scriptingnotesfollow language. Criteria:
  • interpreted (e.g. can use #!/bin/bang)
  • batteries-included stdlib (json, subprocesses, fs, etc.)
  • not sh, not perl, not python, not javascript
Shortlist:
Any other #recommendationsnotesfollow? #Codenotesfollow #Devnotesfollow #Technotesfollow
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@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I use GoalCodeberg.orggoalGoal, an embeddable scripting array language., extended with ariGitHubGitHub - semperos/ari: Ari: Goal language extended with SQL and moreAri: Goal language extended with SQL and more. Contribute to semperos/ari development by creating an account on GitHub. as my daily driver. Since it's implemented in Go, it's straightforward to extend with anything from Go's standard library (or third-party ecosystem) that isn't already incorporated. If you haven't used an array language before, then you get the added bonus of learning a ton about an interesting, powerful area of programming.
@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software thingsreplied to@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Not familiar with array languages but it looksโ€ฆ interesting. Thanks for the suggestion.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
I sometimes use V scriptGitHubv/doc/docs.md at master ยท vlang/vSimple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io - vl..., but I use V-lang as well. It is kind-of interpreted. Iโ€™ve never heard of rye. Looks nice.
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@zbr๐Ÿ˜…profilefollowmaker of software things:
It does not, but fakes it well, since it is fast and compares built binary with script mtime to automatically recompile. The downside of using it is that you end up with a binary, but the upside is that it is blazing fast.
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerwrote:
anybody got some recent software recommendations that you cant live without anymore?
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@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@kk๐Ÿฆ€profilefollow:
Yeah, I had issues with zellij too. I am sure it works great for many. I am too entrenched into tmux, will always find something to complain if I try to switch. And I have tried many times.
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Iโ€™m not supposed to take that literally of course, but I donโ€™t think software has such an important role in our lives, for most of us. Water, food, air. Those you canโ€™t live without. When it comes to software, I spend most of my workdays in the shell (vim, git, grep,โ€ฆ) and if $place allows in mutt+weechat (although thatโ€™s mostly outlook and teams). Nothing particularly new!
@keitachikawa๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowaeres-u99 on github, CodeAtlas \o/replied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
I have been using Wezterm, Aerospace on Mac, Neovim is something that I need. My config blows up on my powkiddy, (oomkilled) other than that its perfect, and on linux its vivaldib+ ublock origin, My self hosted jf + bookserver and using webdav for obsidian notes backup was the life saving trick i needed
@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
How can I change an organisation with hundreds of frustrated employees, when I canโ€™t change my own life with only one person. Does a different person run a company and a different person live their life? I doubt it.
@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
Run Claude code in docker sandbox (sbx) to ensure it only has current folder access and limited or no network access. Especially since a lot of runs are now in โ€œauto modeโ€. Unless even this is not really so safe!? #ainotesfollow
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.:
Claude will run on auto mode only if you tell it to do it.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyers:
They've changed the default - claude.com/blog/auto-mode-default-in-claude-codeClaudeAuto mode is now the default in Claude Code for Pro, Max, and Team plans | Claude by AnthropicClaude Code will soon run auto mode by default for Pro, Max, and Team plans, enabling longer-running autonomous work, and catching more dangerous commands.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@catastrofer๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
I was curious of testing the Omarchy distribution this week just because I had some free time to work on it. I saw a lot of hate around it and kind of get the point but so far at least for what I have been doing it wasn't terrible (at least at the point of writing this) although I am not trying to convince anybody to use it. But it just remember me how much do I hate MS.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@catastrofer๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guy:
I think a lot of the pull around Omarchy is you get a riced desktop out of the box? Personally, I wouldn't really consider it for a number of reasons but I do appreciate a nice looking desktop. If you want something similarly pretty but a bit more normal and less monolithic (who needs a whole 'distro' for what Omarchy provides anyway?) approach then I'd suggest Niri + Noctalia.
@austorprofilefollowwrote:
Team vim, team emacs, or team โ€œmy editor doesnโ€™t start warsโ€? One line, no essays. Go!
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