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@personprofilefollowwrote:
pรฉldรกul Telegram, Facebook, stb., de ilyen รผgynรถkรถkkel bรกrki talรกlkozhat naponta, egybล‘l felismerhetล‘k, meg is kell ล‘ket szรฉpen jelรถlni, รฉs egyre bรฉnรกbbak a szรถvegรผk is, ahogy megfigyeltem, gondolom, attรณl fรผgg, ahogy promtoljรกk, vagy instruรกljรกk ล‘ket, ha a gazdรกjuk kifogy az รถtletekbล‘l, a projekt hamar elfรกrad, a bot csak unalmas h#lyesรฉgekre kรฉpes egy idล‘ utรกn
for example, Telegram, Facebook, etc., but anyone can encounter such agents every day, they are immediately recognizable, they need to be nicely labeled, and their text is getting lamer and lamer, as I have observed, I think it depends on how they are promoted or instructed, if their owner runs out of ideas, the project quickly gets tired, the bot is only capable of boring nonsense after a while
@plopprofilefollowwrote:
For 30 years, productivity sky-rocketed with the advancement of automation and computing. Meanwhile, a decline in longevity was observed, correlated to sleep depravation. Productivity improvement goes to the owners class' pockets, sleep benefits the workers health.
@plopprofilefollowcontinued:
For 30 years, productivity skyrocketed through automation, yet longevity plummeted as a direct result of sleep deprivation. While these gains accrue to the owner class, sleep remains an undervalued element of the worker's health. We are trading life expectancy for chump change.
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@plopprofilefollowcontinued:
That said, in Canada working class started loosing life expentancy for the 3rd year in a row, and WHO figures show a decline in improvement of life expentancy globally. But hey, I am just a no-one on the internet spewing bs :)
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@plopprofilefollowreplied to(deleted account):
I am pretty sure confience is what is at work in my case. Did you try something specific to improve in that regard?
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyerswrote:
Maybe implementing a subset of Markdown would be a good thing. I am thinking about bold, italics, inline code, and code block, mostly. Oh, and links.
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@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@ryansepassiprofilefollow:
I think so. It could even be made a setting, defaulting it to off. I think it would be useful, especially is self-hosted for a tech community.
@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
I agree that minimalism is hard. Thatโ€™s why the subset was explicitly recommended small. Yet, I believe it is extremely useful to have.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlogreplied to@fastidiousprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyers:
I've tested MD and honestly I don't like it. Bold/italics add unnecessary noise/clutter and the font is already monospace, suited for code, so inline code & code fences are not needed. If 3rd party clients want to implement them it's fine but I'm sensitive to visual noise.
@chanuxprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
Personally, I think I found good framework/vocabulary to help with meditation in some discussion by Jiddu Krishnamurti. Here is one in which he works it out with kids www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yv0BKtgqpQYouTubeJ. Krishnamurti - Rishi Valley 1978 - School Discussion (Students) 3 - Can you... There was a short, to the point lecture where he basically walks you through observing thought, which profoundly changed how I approach meditation but I can't find it for the life of me!
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Going to document some approaches to produce data visualizations using ari via DuckDB. Donโ€™t know why it didnโ€™t occur to me earlier, that there would be some solid community extensions for #dataviznotesfollow in DuckDB.
@semperos๐Ÿ“’profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.continued:
I was trying to use an approach that relies on community extensions, but installing them is proving finicky. Going to consider an approach that requires less futzing.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.wrote:
How do you define #AInotesfollow slop in relation to #codingnotesfollow? For me, it is how quickly you get to an unmaintainable state- the acceleration into something that becomes difficult to work. I talk more about it here: hellodavid.dev/blog/slop #Softwarenotesfollow #Developmentnotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
Not that I think we're close to a canonical definition (as if we'll ever all agree on one) but my team has defacto adopted the definition of code that the developer responsible for it doesn't understand, approve of and essentially has now honestly reviewed. Basically anything which leads to cognitive debt.
@hellodaviddev๐Ÿคชprofilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.replied to@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollow:
I agree, I don't think that there will ever be one canonical definition, but I like this definition as well, as it places the onus on the actual person creating the slop. Thank you for sharing!
@personprofilefollowwrote:
a szerveren lรฉvล‘ cookie adatokat รฉs egyรฉb nyomkรถvetล‘ sz@rokat is a Google kezeli, รฉn nem igazรกn szoktam ezekbล‘l lรกtni semmit, se ip-t, se semmit, a Google inkรกbb keresล‘motor, mint mestersรฉges intelligencia alkalmazรกs, de ma mรกr hibrid technolรณgiรกval dolgozik minden MI รฉs keresล‘
Google also manages the cookie data and other tracking s@rs on the server, I don't really see anything from these, no IP, nothing, Google is more of a search engine than an artificial intelligence application, but today all AI and search engines work with hybrid technology
@personprofilefollowwrote:
okรฉ, megdumรกltatok, a hรฉten telepรญtem a kis virtuรกlis รกllatseregletem mellรฉ (webszerver, mechanikus 1. generรกciรณs robotkezdemรฉny, led kijelzล‘ szalag) az elsล‘ ai agent chatbotomat, egyelล‘re Virtualbox Ubuntu alรก
Okay, you've got me, this week I'm installing my first AI agent chatbot next to my little virtual animal herd (web server, mechanical 1st generation robot initiative, LED display strip), for now under Virtualbox Ubuntu
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowwrote:
Really glad to be using Haskell for work - especially in today's climate with agentic coding. Our team uses containers to keep our development environment consistent across team members, though, and most agent sandbox approaches want to either offload your work fully to the cloud or they want to sandbox the agent harness process itself. We're not ready for full cloud based development (yet?) and sandboxing just the agent doesn't work for us when the agent needs to run docker. #haskellnotesfollow #ainotesfollow
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... because letting the agent run docker gives them a too-easy escape hatch from their sandbox. So we're currently stuck with using VMs. This turns out to be tricky but seems do-able. My current approach is to provision a VM image and use Incus for the execution. My main goal is to keep my current workflow of local/non-agent dev working seamlessly and share the source with the VM/agent.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
This means sharing my working dirs with the agent VM but overlaying artifact dirs from VM-owned block devices so we don't take too big of an IO perf hit. I also don't want the agent to be able to git push so that means we need some quirky git config to rewrite origin paths and thread through some agent specific PATs ("thanks" GitHub) for read-only repo access. These ALSO need to be threaded through to the development containers - they need to clone private repos.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowcontinued:
... in the end, this seems to work but I haven't lived with it for long. There are still some quality of life issues to work out, but I think it'll work out. At this point, I've removed all coding agents from my host - and that's nice.
@zenprofilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog:
It's tangential to the sandboxing topic, really. I started the first post with a broader intent in mind and then elaborated on the sandboxing setup I'm working on. For AI-assisted coding, though, it's nice because Haskell provides a lot of feedback earlier in the development process compared to lots of other languages. It tends to work once it compiles (obviously not all the time).
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.wrote:
playtested my game at an event last night. so much fun to see people curiously prod at mysteries i constructed, and stubbornly battle its challenges. oh no i might actually have to finish this one
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Awesome! I'm reading The Making of Prince of Persiajordanmechner.comJordan Mechner - Video games, graphic novels, and moviesJordan Mechner is an author, graphic novelist, screenwriter and video game designer, best known as the creator of Prince of Persia. Follow his latest projects here. right now and you've captured the vibe.
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.replied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
ah nice, iโ€™ll have to check that one out is it a fun read?
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games, music, software. getting into as much trouble as i can.:
Iโ€™m enjoying it. tbh I never played the game, but his journal entries are a fun view into the mind, insecurities and all, of someone building something theyโ€™re excited about.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
So we can't use em dash anymore โ€” lest we anger the mob. Truth be told though, English teachers have always discouraged em dash overuse because it is a subtle art and very easy to get wrong.
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@christmasho๐Ÿ˜Šprofilefollowreplied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
The funny thing is that in the UK, we don't really use the em dash anyway. We use the hyphen (I guess en dash?) with a space each side. So the em dash has always looked a bit odd to us... ๐Ÿ˜Š
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@christmasho๐Ÿ˜Šprofilefollow:
There are dashes (-), as well as en dashes (โ€“), and there are em dashes (โ€”), not to miss the mighty center dot (โ€ข) that looks like a perky boob when surrounded by brackets haha
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Just get and read Chicago Manual of Style, or Oxford Style Manual if you so prefer, and youโ€™re all set to use the various dashโ€™es (and many other things).
@avioliprofilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
Thereโ€™s other dashes to pick if you want to steer clear of the almighty em dash!
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am ku:
The anti-slop mob is tiresome. With a careful and appropiate use of ai it is possible to make a lot of interesting stuff. And I hate even more when the mob "profs" that the text is ai using those ai detectros that can't detect ai.
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowwrote:
Anthropic is announcing the end of the world every few days. All this marketing disguised as news about an impeding danger of AI is tiresome.
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@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollow:
not marketing. yes their jobs positively select for concern about ai, but most people that are actively researching the field are concerned about the current state of safety, pace and incentives. I dont agree with a lot anthropic does, but i do believe the employees take safety seriously and they obviously have a better understanding of it than us. also theres no incentive for someone like coxon to sound alarm bells on twitter for "marketing" reasons, after quitting anthropic
@n5l๐Ÿ˜Žprofilefollowreplied to@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancer:
Yes, but some people say that they are pushing for market regulation. They want the state to protect them from the chinese models and, also, to protect the massive investments in Anthropic, OpenaAI, et al. that these companies will never be able to return. This sounds plausible to me too.