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we also launched Norma! :) It checks AI-generated code for security, quality and maintainability while the agent is still working, rather than after a pull request opens. The output is deterministic. Here the demo link: portal.qualityclouds.ai/demo

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(Opinion) People don’t like generative AI because it made the {insert creativity} too easy. Saw the HN post on ‘AI music banned from top 40 chart in Australia’ and people had very strong opinions in both directions. The hot take: If you’re ok with someone’s creativity being outsourced to others, then you should be ok with AI doing the same. If “AI made this and I call it mine” is bad but “someone overseas on fivver made this and I call it mine” and it’s suddenly ok, time to self reflect.

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My hot take: from the moment you use technology, be it an instrument, a synthesizer, a DAW, and now AI, it is still your idea, your effort, your time spent, and that makes it yours. Others can do the same if they choose. The same way someone chooses a classic guitar over a synthesizer, one can choose an AI over (insert ancient way of doing things).

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I am not a musician, so I lack the jargon to properly explain what I mean. I used AI for creative writing (nothing too fancy, TTRPG). There, the broader the dice roll, the more generic and uninteresting the results. Slop, if you will. It was surprisingly good to build up on ideas I had however. I imagine muisic also has building blocks. Melodies, instruments, mixing, etc. AI can perhaps be used in a similar fashion there.

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Yes, enhancing the artist/creator, not replacing them.

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I heard a perspective I sort of like: if AI is a tool then acceptable AI use is, more or less, defined as "when my audience no longer notices or cares". It's dynamic like that. Bad photoshop is detectable and annoying, so are overusing presets. Your artistry needs to expand to meet the tool. I don't know if I 100% like that or agree. At the same time, it's a pretty straightforward line, a practical take.

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I kind of ask that and here is my theory... news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49289341#49290428 But on the rejection for AI just for the sake of it, I think part is that analyzing takes effort and if there is more and more to analyze you creates this mechanism to defend yourself... scroll twi... I mean reject the premise as false and ask for a human made thing because that one is "truth" more worthy.

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Devs! Drop your so we can follow each other! Love to see the projects you’re working on. Mine: —

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, however my project will be on Tangled. .

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That tangled link goes no where, or it is slower than molasses. Give up.

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Derp. It looks like it's got a case of the GitHubs. Not sure what's up. It is down for me as well, but officially isn't. status.tangled.org

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Unlike others, I’m far too quick to put stuff up here. I tend to look on building and showing as THE point, but maybe I’m wrong.

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I looked at your personal website. I too am my own worst enemy and afraid to write. I feel like I have something to say but at the same time I don't know what to say. How can that be?

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Coding is so passe. Dont feel like coding at all

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it's called prompting now. old man.

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Inspired by two projects of github:schildep I start to explore what can be expressed in Lean and make coding agents implement and prove the implementation at the same time.

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The two projects of github:schildep are "3d mesh intersection" and "multipolygon intersection". I can try "Voronoi diagram generation" as a starter.

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I like this, it feels like Reddit before what it is now, but I feel like it won’t be long until the internet destroys this place. Until then I’m happy to be here.

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It's really sad that this is such a common sentiment whenever there's a nice online community nowadays. Guess most of us have been burnt enough times by now

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lets enjoy this while it lasts i guess

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My favorite part of classic reddit was the use of elaborate hacks to circumvent the restrictions on custom subreddit CSS. E.g. animated gifs weren't allowed, so people made filmstrip sprites with stepwise animation in such a way as to look exactly the same.

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The most elegant code I've ever written, is of a , using a tribool return (null, undefined, boolean) to denote status. I find it perfect.

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, new day, new issues to solve — oh and ☕

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I like the minimalism of this site, very well done imo. It is more engaging.

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Appreciate it, thank you!

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"Your outie can use Claude."

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The seductive power of using to just-get-it-done is very strong. One can't hurry quality. One can iterate quickly though in the hope of arriving somewhere good.

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I direct a plan, then break it into phases, and each phase into sections with tasks and sub-tasks. The plan outlines all phases, but only write tasks one phase at a time, since things change. That's how I've been working with for the past few months to a year. It has been amazingly consistently high quality. just-get-it-done is for the rough sketch or proof of concepts (I do those too and a lot of them) but never for a quality product.

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Switching from Claude Max to Team, cc was trivial, just another login, but Claude Desktop and on iOS holds sessions in the cloud so need to move them somehow.

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I don't see much point in trying to build software at a "higher level", like whole products and services. I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. Hopefully in time I'll be able to contribute to the foundational bits. You're right, it does get exhausting. At some point you just want to rebuild everything, which is not possible.

@stagas🤸profileenter to followcreative technologist GitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@crustyrustaceanprofileenter to followOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
NIH syndrome? I am guilty of it too. I love implementing things from scratch, you learn a lot by doing so and you get to own the codebase end-to-end, so no surprises and fighting around others’ choices. It can get exhausting too though, in the end I succumb to using off-the-shelf components because my primary goals move at a higher level.

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I'm going to go down low and train myself on the fundamentals. When I wrote an HTTP sever (albeit HTTP/1.1), I learned how primitive the HTTP protocol its magic became a skill. It is freeing understanding how things work and allows me to choose where to spend time with more intention.

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I was contemplating pwc372, p2 and came up with “- 1+&/-/'(&'(?x)=x)@0 -1” (goal). Conceptually I like it, but maybe it can be simplified further?

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let's see how arabic letters are rendered here: بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Let's see how Arabic letters are rendered here: بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

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I hate it when I don’t remember if I took my midday pill or not. Not that it matters a lot, but still, annoying. I have notifications set up but I discard them by habit because they are exact times and my sleep pattern fluctuates.

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I once saw someone flip their pill bottle upside down after taking a pill. Not sure it'd help me, because I suspect that somehow I'd still only pay half-attention when taking pills and so still get forgetful and confused :shrug:

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That might work, thanks for the :)

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when I took insulin I would always forget and got a cap that had a time since the last time I had uncapped the pen, worked really well so I never double dosed. they make similar tools for pill bottles, but the best has been just having a pill case as much as it makes me feel old.

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I’ve disabled ALL notifications except my meds. I highly recommend it. I check messaging or emails every hour or sometimes once a day. If I’m expecting someone to message me I’ll re-enable the app, but then disable after. It is so liberating!

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That’s how I’ve had it but it didn’t work because I’d get my midday notification like 1 hour after waking up. My day pattern ≠ pill pattern. They just have to be spaced properly so I’d have to have relative notifications according to when I wake up lol.

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the more you use ai to create stuff, the less you touch the creativity void inside you

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on the contrary, at least for me, it unleashes creativity because I don’t have to switch to execution mode (linear thinking), I can keep myself in the creativity mode (lateral thinking).

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I'm not an optimist, just a pessimist who's still proactive: I don't think things are going to get better, but I just can't talk myself into giving up yet.

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hey peeps.

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i miss real coding

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me too, but at the same time i'm enjoying getting things done, otherwise i would get lost in details like bikeshedding naming variables and making the code look pretty, and little would be done.

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whats stopping you from it?

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Nothing, I still write code by hand for most personal things, but for work, it seems AI has been adopted uniformly.

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I feel you there.. and fear the craft will vanish.

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“If it is not right, do not do it, if it is not true, do not say it.” – Marcus Aurelius

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Current aliases: # The canonical tug tug = ["bookmark", "move", "--from", "closest_bookmark(@-)", "--to", "@-"] # Show my current work-in-progress(es). To wip it, whip it good. wips = ["log", "-r", "bookmarks() | description(exact:'')"]

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I've found myself really liking the "megamerge" workflow. Not an alias, just a whole thing.

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Turned Stepper (self-hosted AWS StepFunctions) into client-server. Server hosts state machines, clients poll for tasks. New resources about running . claude -p works, now thinking if I need interactive session management.

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Body's awake, eyes are sleepy. Mind's awake, brain is sleepy.

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After everything's awake and a good kind of sore. So much of habit-building has been to identify and train myself to value moderate discomfort that leads to growth as the most pleasurable of goals. Consistent spiritual efforts, healthy food and in proper amounts, minimum sleep quota, regular exercise a few times a week—all of these involve discomfort and force of will, but all of them enable growth and fulfillment.

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ still one of my favorites (or rather #unicode_art right?)

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OK. I've translated the (correctness) requirements of LeetCode No.22 to Lean, and ask Claude Code to both implement a solution and prove it.

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In the first attempt, Opus 4.7 successfully completed it and proved it. However, the solution is to enumerate all possible space and .filter out anything that doesn't qualify my definition, which is obviously not ideal (if cheating is too harsh).

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I can't think of a good way to also prevent that kind of solutions and ended up prompting "please don't enumerate and filter". Opus 4.7 then reimplemented and proved the backtracking algorithm.

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Quite a few major 's implemented today, API writes, password logins, full-text search. Wonder what's going to follow.

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turns out the power of exclamation mark thing in bash is bigger than !$ and !!. i learned a few tricks from , worth reading!

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I am a remote worker, and has been for 4 years now. It works great. But the owner of the office I've been renting have sold the building, and the new owner has different visions. I could work from home, but my 3 month daughter is a screamer. I had a great, cheap deal. All alternatives I find is like 3x the price.

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You gave me an , Airbnb but for office space, you can only go in the day, get at least a desk/chair/internet. Might exist already idk.

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Not a bad idea. I know some people rent a single desk in some other companies office. Problem is you kinda need to know the owner to find those deals

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A company called Spacious to do this with restaurant spaces that aren’t used during the day. Always seemed like a good idea to me, but they went under.

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I am trying to wrap my head around Traefik (which I have never used; have only used Caddy for most of my needs) to plan a migration for things I now run on "bare metal” to containers, and then use Traefik as entry point. If you know some good guides, send the link my way, please.

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I sit in meetings all day long, I roll my eyes and die a bit and synergize and circle back inner life sacrosanct outer face smiling stone no need to rush: executives don't need to work just synergize and circle back

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Vår konges livsgjerning går mot slutten, landet samler seg for å ta farvel med en konge som har vært samlende og god for landet. Må Gud velsigne hans minne og hans etterfølger.

Our king's life's work is coming to an end, the country comes together to say goodbye to a king who has been unifying and good for the country. May God bless his memory and his successor.

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this is where I live. it’s a plateau. it’s quiet, we have cats and there are goats around and fig and pear trees.

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Fired up street view on Google Maps to have a look around. It seems like a pretty relaxed and peaceful place to live. 🌞

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I was obsessed with Greece as a kid because of The Chipmunk's Adventure movie where they were dancing on the statues, ha. I was more into he statues (even if cartoon) than the dancing, and yet I have still never been there (I'm 45).

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Crete is beautiful, I remember being on vacation there many years ago and hiking a long gorge. It was a really great experience.

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Crete is beautifulIt is!hiking a long gorgeThat would be ! it’s not very far from here and it’s the largest in Greece, 7–8 hours hiking. You arrive at a beautiful beach. I crossed it when I was little, I remember whining a lot because for my small feet it was much harder.

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whats the point of url shorteners in 2026

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Good for you. You must be one of the last holdouts against "QR all the things!".

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I think short urls are still memorable and good. My phone doesn't surrogate all of my recall.

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Short URLs are good. Memorable URLs are good. URLs spat out by URL shorteners are something entirely different.

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Ah, the randomly generated ones. Yeah, agreed.

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The longer the text you need to store, the bigger a QR code needs to be in order to scan reliably. Also, you might be more confident in being able to keep a short URL stable (it's already a step of indirection, so if you want to reorg your site you can just update where the short URL points to). But people don't really take care to maintain short URLs anyway, apparently.

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Is there anybody writing spanish here?

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The more I use Terraform the more I don't like it. Can I just get the option to track state with Ansible?

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Say more. I've been using it this year "at scale" and it sucks in the way that everything sucks when the whole company starts using it for everything. I haven't used Ansible in over a decade, but am curious what you like about it better.

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Ansible just melds with my way of thinking better. I have a really hard time wrapping my head around nested loops in HCL and the overall "ugliness" of the language. Plus, I kind of like being in control of the order things are created.

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Hello textlog 👋

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Hi 👋

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I'm sooo late for work so time to lock in to catch up

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The results of my simulation are bullocks but I believe I know why. Rerunning with the patch now. Fingers crossed!

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Blasting this rn: My taste in music is abysmal but I enjoy it very much

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Still running but already look deceptive. Fck that

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Nothing works ffs

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I've been building a Markdown variant called Zd that's focused on extensibility and simplicity. I'm curious what you would change about Markdown if you were designing it from scratch, what challenges you face as a user, or what you wish were easier to do when incorporating Markdown into your own projects.

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Definitely tables are cumbersome.

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Yeah, 100%. That is completely something I am punting on currently. It would be easy to just copy over the solution from (extensions to) Markdown, but it's hard to entirely narrow in on both what tables ought to do and how to make them do it. If you had a magic wand, what would you have them be more like?

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Make it easy for users to export polygons. My municipal GIS didn't for some reason so I had to guess by moving the mouse around and manually type the coordinates into Marble.

@austorprofileenter to followwrote:
I am writing a GIS app for Android and iOS. Any opinions/suggestions?

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Thanks for the suggestion. Export feature added.

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I subscribe to the Tony Stark school of engineering. "Sometimes you have to run before you walk." Earlier this year, I built my own static site generator. I hate literally every static site generator out there (not joking). get-taxus.org

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Love the flat option for threads Edit: didn’t realise that was the old style. Hahaha

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HelloWorld

from datetime import datetime
now = datetime.now()
formatted_time = now.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")
print("Formatted:", formatted_time)

Wow

Formatted: 2026-08-28 07:22:42

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This fruit is rotten. It looks so ripe and juicy but if you bite it you will see: this fruit is rotten.

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"Think of yourself as dead. You have lived your life. Now, take what's left and live it properly." - Marcus Aurelius

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What a dude.

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! n

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Why do so many tools have JSON config files‽ Commenting why options have been set the way they have is just such a basic thing to want to do… Why do tech people have such an aversion to writing things down⁇

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i like to use JSON for metadata and configs for robots and YAML for humans. if there is a need for a human to read the file there needs to be support for annotations

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Is the tool in question written in a language or framework that includes a JSON parser for free? If so, you have your answer already.

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I think it's mostly because JSON is a widely supported format.

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TOML is a better format for configuration files IMO, if not for many reasons, primarily because TOML accepts comments. However, one annoying thing for TOML was the lack of schema, and the reliance on JSON Schema for that. Which I decided to tackle years ago when I started the TOML Schema project. In the past few months I leveraged code agents to take to the finish line and got something compelling: tomlschema.org

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that is so nice

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Is anyone interested in the situation of homeless people in China?

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Yep spill the beans

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again. Was in the middle of some timeline experiments, sorry if it appears weird rn. www.githubstatus.com

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will go to university

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This guide has really worked out for me after trying so many different methods - berbarianwizard.substack.com/…/beyond-calories-fat-loss-guide

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I made a thing:

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굿 아담.

Good Adam.

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Google Play

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for a moment I thought someone had published it 😂 but soon I hope we’ll have it on both iPhone and Android app stores. We’re in the process.

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Team vim, team emacs, or team “my editor doesn’t start wars”? One line, no essays. Go!

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ouhh bet thats nice. im rocking some 50€ aliexpress print/pcb that i put some old switches/caps onto. legitimately impressed, best keyboard i ever used, never going back to traditional kbs.

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Zed, like the cool kids

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Vim mode in Zed.

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Zed with vim bindings when I'm not using a terminal. Neovim when I am.

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vim/neovim with vim keys everywhere else -- once you learn it text editing with any thing else feels slow

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i would choose x and the fediverse over this tbh

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我在中国是一个准脱离政府掌控者，基于身份的一切活动我都不参与，比如正式工作和网购。我也为此付出巨大代价，我的选择空间被极大压缩，行动能力损失严重。我只能通过少量免费wifi访问互联网

In China, I am practically independent of the government; I don't participate in any activities based on my status, such as formal work or online shopping. I've paid a heavy price for this; my choices have been severely limited, and my mobility has been significantly impaired. I can only access the internet through limited free Wi-Fi.

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hello world!

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hello tim!

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Where’s the coffee machine?

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okay, writing from emacs, textlog.el -

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Beautiful, thanks for this, fellow emacs friend

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Have been reading the book: The Wise Heart by Dr Jack Kornfield. Profound and inspiring. Highly recommend.

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There are two kinds of suffering. One which you run from, and it follows you everywhere. And there is suffering you face directly, and in doing so become free. - Ajahn Chah So damn insightful.

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中国的开源模型在最高意志的主导下，在预训练数据阶段，就筛除大量对其不利的内容，sft阶段构建的数据掺入大量替其辩护的内容。急需一个纠偏数据集用于微调

Under the overarching influence of a single, powerful force, China's open-source models filter out a large amount of content unfavorable to their designs during the pre-training stage, and then incorporate a significant amount of content defending their designs into the data constructed during the SFT stage. A corrective dataset is urgently needed for fine-tuning.

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Hello World!

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hi there! 👋 welcome!

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Hi 👋

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Bring back partial anterior encephalectomies

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Which part of the brain would you remove?

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It seems like removing some of the connections between the anterior and frontal cortices could have positive effects.

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I think you're perfect as you are :)

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^____^

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What’s up ?

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hey! welcome :)

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hey bro, nice platfrom! whats the stack?

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Thanks! It's server-side React with Bun and SQLite. There is zero frontend JS!

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Cool!! I'm currently designing and idea-shopping for an ultra light weight, super aesthetic browser whose goal is to go back to HTML roots and just be a "document browser". It would have HTML 4 and semantic HTML support, images, videos, full HTTP support, cookies, etc. No CSS, JS

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whats the stack? nice platfrom you got here

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Hopefully this takes off

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I have an , a website that’s directly linked to an agent and modifies its source and deploys based on its users’ requests. With some guardrails like reject “delete all data” in its system prompt.

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ooh maybe I revive and add this feature but instead of being able to modify everything it would be limited to adding features to the game/world. And it’s the perfect domain, a site that’s been ~~entirely~~ mostly hallucinated.

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Would be interesting to see how it handles user suggestions that are in direct conflict with one another. ‘I want all “thing” to be text-aligned left’ with another user asking for text-aligned right. Does it just center justify and call it a day?

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Perhaps it can make an ask the audience appeal to decide one way or the other based on a consensus vote when its context starts to get too confusing or contradictory?

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My first request will be for the agent to delete all vendor specific css completely no matter what breaks. No -webkit- no -moz- no vendor specific css at all. What could possibly go wrong? 🫣

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warning: possible violence content
click to view anyway

ok too far. I'm SWATing this guy.

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Well back ok the saddle after some deserving rest.

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It was only yesterday that I clicked on a Translate button to read a Japanese post. Today I see a Chinese post with English translation right below. Beautiful stuff.

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Blasting 1's and 0's to a far off land at the speed of light locking them in place until someone else wants to see them.

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can imagine this like Pink Floyd lyrics

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Job I was hoping for gave me the "we found another applicant" treatment. I don't begrudge them for that, since I know I had a 'less than adequate initial coding interview. But still, it stings and sucks. Hopefully my other interviews yield better results...

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Wish you luck! Personally, I can't even land an interview these days -get rejected on the spot, so that's a feat on its own.

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I’m an insane person who built their own coding harness, in Rust. I’ve called it Rho. Please forgive this landing page: https://rho-code.dev I just wanted an easy central spot.

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Not insane at all. People should build their own instead of using other people's agents. It's easy to do and the results can be great for you. I've built several; one that is effectively "stuck" in Kakoune:

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I wrote my own too. I feel like that's the best way.

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im decently happy with opencode. anything im missing out on?

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Yeah. It's a very large project with lots of dependencies. <The system prompt is long and wastes tokens. If you have ideas for tools (or automations like the agents.sh "loop" I wrote) it's easier if you understand the harness.

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My friend won 2nd place in the pc demo competition at Evoke in Köln this weekend, with his ascii-inspired demo Glyphnosis. Really happy for him! 💥

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woo that was great, happy for him! I had an Amiga too :D remember all that era so this demo resonated a lot

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That’s awesome. Congrats to your friend.

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meow, no likes, no karma points, no engagement tricks, just thoughts and replies

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Doughnuts are delicious, then belly vicious. Oh multitudes! Why have you forsaken me?

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haha cool! uhm perhaps we should detect hashtag and get rid of the line spacing

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implemented, hashtag now gets compact lines!

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, 'for you' tab only show text by me. is that it?

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hi :3

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I’m really digging the cozy vibe of this site. Thanks, !

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😊

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we're taking over. :3 this site is for weird animal tgirls now

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__ .--()°'.' '|, . ,' !_-(_\

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Am I the first Korean to write here?

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moved to a new city recently and going to a Movie club meetup tonight. nervous cause I'm a huge introvert but I gotta make friends some way.

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How did it go?

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Changed my theme to dracula! Love it. This site is such a blessing.

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This bout of COVID is more like “Corona Light” compared to previous years, but I’m still spending most of it in bed. Stay safe out there.

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Cool idea congratulation's on the hope it picks up steam

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I'm curious how do people start writing longer novels.. what determines the length of it? Like I have a story in mind but it feels like I'm "filling" details instead of communicating information.

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Someone can create enormous value while their manager controls the narrative around that value. Conversely, a manager can conceal structural problems because the people capable of exposing them depend on that same manager for evaluation and promotion

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I’m using textlog to explore the intersection of and tech, with the goal of building an app that solves a problem in this space. Named , it's word represented as a hex color. Of all the words there, it is a cocoa-ish color and is an appropriate name for this idea.

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Loving this, congratz on the

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<3 tysm

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Never realized how much slow builds kill morale until I have to do multiple back to back 😔

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Nobody is complaining to me because I think they know they will be "voluntold" if they speak up 🤣🤣🤣

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, fyi, iCloud puts emails from textlog to Junk => login flow via magic link isn’t very handy.

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That's unfortunate, I've done all things necessary, and using Resend for emails which is a well known provider. It is what it is. On gmail it works fine.

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work has been dreadful recently. spending so much time on processes and in meetings :(

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This seems nice

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I'm doing experiments with short attention-span students and code. Starting with python, and, oddly, now working in BASIC. As a C programmer of 40+ years, I find this aesthetically and pedagogically displeasing, but I am delighted to see them getting fully absorbed in writing 130 PRINT "You have been eaten by a bear!" : GOTO 900. Yes there is spaghetti, but it's their spaghetti and they seem to take delight in debugging it. Python will come later.

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I was talking about this with some alumni students, specifically their experience learning python with us a few years earlier (these are college students who are not really using python any more). What it seems to boil down to is that with python you have the feeling that there is this huge forest of solutions to any problem you are having -- but you will never know the whole forest. BASIC feels like you "know" it after a day or two of playing around, evidently.

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