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profilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
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what is a refinement? honest question - I'm restructuring our refinements now. Like having group of people discussing 5 items in an hour gives little chances any one of them will be addressed properly, unless they are trivial.
#AInotesfollow brings so many issues. It really accelerates. Not only the good parts but also the bad parts. Combine this with a product person that doesn't even know what a refinement is. I'm 41, maybe I'll study to pivot, maybe I'll get into trading. I can't handle it anymore.
😰profilefollowreplied toprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
Architect/lead have a pre-refinement with product to clear 80% of the obvious questions. We share an agenda, devs can ask questions async. In the refinement product presents, we design a solution draft. 15 minutes/item. This doesn't work if product is incompetent and everything is AI-slopped.
I am trying to learn emacs for the fun of it. The tutorial is brilliant and clear. Any tips that would help me learning more things. I know all I need is practice but if you may have used it, you may know a thing or two.
profilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.comwrote:
anyone else seriously into agentic loop development?
profilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied toprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
I've been working with physical AI - Letting LLMs control robots in a warehouse to collaborate and collectively come up with a physically correct solution to carry out a natural language intent. We had to study the reactive nature of agents, nudges they required, etc.
profilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied toprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
haha that's a coincidence. Site looks awesome. The moving away from ROS2 part is so true. One of our main potential customers for physical AI solutions (a telecom provider in JP) communicated the need for agents to be able to pick up controls from any vendor
profilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devcontinued:
I apologize if that sounded obvious/non-obvious/amateurish haha. I was an intern and worked more on the agentic side of things, it was just a non-primary experiment
profilefollowhallucinating with llms...wrote:
Apparently, Xiaomi is making a DGX Spark competitor.
was shocked at how antiquated making international payments are in 2026!! used transfermate - no tracking, no visibility. just transfer and pray my money reaches 🙏
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerscontinued:
The “you have seeing it all”, etc.
🤔profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Never realized how much slow builds kill morale until I have to do multiple back to back 😔
🤔profilefollowHai I am kucontinued:
Nobody is complaining to me because I think they know they will be "voluntold" if they speak up 🤣🤣🤣
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:
There is someone absolutely rotten and fetid in this airplane. Every 10 minutes. Dear Spaghetti Monster!
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Unfortunately no. Just starting it. Got the proof of concept loading a dir with its sub-dirs then rendering on the GPU in textures silky smooth. 1.7mb executable, but will need to level up to SDL and that will double the size I think.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied to🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
I agree. It is #zilchnotesfollow for now. Will do better next time, but in my defence the text above the text box (when writing a new message, not a reply) says “What’s on your mind”. :-P
profilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
How can I change an organisation with hundreds of frustrated employees, when I can’t change my own life with only one person. Does a different person run a company and a different person live their life? I doubt it.
🤒profilefollowfather, cyclist, #haskellnotesfollow, #emacsnotesfollowreplied toprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.:
I think so, actually. My wife runs my household, I run my engineering org. As I get older I do see the two aspects of my personality start to merge but they are still divergent and were much moreso in my earlier years.
and to be clear, I don't mean that I offload all the work to her by any stretch. It's just that I'm much more outspoken and opinionated on the specifics of work life versus home life.
Bluey's "curry swapYahoo LifeThe 'Bluey'-inspired trick for twice the homemade meals with half the workFind a like-minded family to start your own weekday "curry swap" to share home-cooked meals." is an ingenious way to save #timenotesfollow #cookingnotesfollow. The scheme is simple: One night a week, we make twice as much #dinnernotesfollow and drop it off at the other family's house. They do the same on a different night.The #lifehacknotesfollow is deceivingly simple. Doubling a recipe is easier than preparing a second dish.
profilefollowNew herewrote:
Quebec City is pretty amazing. Excellent food, tons to see and do, surrounded by nature, mountains, islands. My kind of place.
profilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied toprofilefollowNew here:
Do you live there or are just visiting? I remember feeling so at home there as a kid. I never kept my French up so I don't think I could ever move there.
profilefollowNew herereplied toprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.:
Visiting, for the first time. It's about a 9 hour drive from home so we've never made the trip, but so worth it. Went to Ile d'Orleans yesterday, just... so quiet and beautiful. Seems a bit of a paradise, haven't even made it up to the natl park(s) yet. My French is coming back a little each day, made it all the way through the coffee order just now :)
they too have every incentive to exaggerate because they are selling safety and/or books on the topic. I don’t believe we won’t see it coming. Any issues that will manifest will be very visible and we’ll have plenty of time to mitigate their impact.
i dont think its all talk, these are smart people that have been in ai since the 2000s, and they raise good points. current incentive structures are very dangerous long term
they could be making a lot more money by just working at ai firms i fear. the thing that got me worried the hacking incidents lately, huggingface etc. if the capabilities consistently outspeed the development of safety measures, and if the private arms race logic continues, i dont think this is a good spot to be in long term
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:
Just started, and two made it to be block list. This is going well! :-D
Blasting 1's and 0's to a far off land at the speed of light locking them in place until someone else wants to see them.
You look in the corner, you see a guy quietly eating cigarette butts. It's ok. He's dealing with a lot of stress from work. He takes care of his family. Capitalism
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied toprofilefollow:
Likewise... you look in the corner, you see a guy quietly eating cigarette butts. It's ok. He's dealing with a lot of stress for lack of work, or food, or future. He wants to take care of his family. Communism. We haven’t figured out yet. Maybe we never will.
🥸profilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
I think I may be use this for now to spill out my guts a bit. Set out boundaries guys. I was basically ignoring how important that is, whatever is at work, family, relations. Be loved being you, you don't have to meet any expectations beyond yours.
😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Maybe neither of us will ever know when this was written. Live.
😊profilefollowDesigner, no-code maker of stuffreplied to😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
It’s easy, just add your own timestamp to posts 2:35 am Tuesday, 25 August 2026 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.replied to😊profilefollowDesigner, no-code maker of stuff:
No one would ever misuse this convention. This post was written on Thursday, 26 November 2009, 16:05 UTC+3:00
profilefollowreplied toprofilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.:
This is how one accidentally encourages the creation of timehash services which vend cryptographically provable timestamps....
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
For the first time in a couple of year, I wove a rattan basket today, and the best part is it only took two hours when I was expecting it to take all day #basketrynotesfollow
I finally bit the bullet and have started to use dictation software more often, even outside of just my prompts. I really like it. Hopefully, computer use becomes much smoother soon. I would love to be able to control my computer with just my voice.
profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearwrote:
🐉 #execnotesfollow let N=6,D0=[0,1,0,-1],D1=[1,0,-1,0],s=[],g={},d=x=y=xa=xb=ya=yb=0; for(let n=0;n<N;n++){s=s.concat([1]).concat(s.map(x=>!x).reverse())} for(let i=0;i<s.length;i++) { x<xa && (xa=x);y<ya && (ya=y);x>xb && (xb=x);y>yb && (yb=y); let t=s[i]?1:-1,e=(d+t+4)%4; g[x]||(g[x]={}); g[x][y]=g[x][y]?"┼":"┌┐└┘"[(t*(D0[d]+D0[e])>0?0:2)+(t*(D1[d]+D1[e])>0?0:1)]; x+=D0[e];y+=D1[e];d=e; } for(j=yb;j>=ya;j--) { let u=""; for(i=xa;i<=xb;i++){u+=(g[i][j]||"·")} console.log(u); }
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profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearcontinued:
OK, so you only get 10 lines of output. (I tried to get ChatGPT to write this program but it kept messing up, so I wrote it by hand.)
I sit in meetings all day long, I roll my eyes and die a bit and synergize and circle back inner life sacrosanct outer face smiling stone no need to rush: executives don't need to work just synergize and circle back #poemnotesfollow
profilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
When I sit with curious people, I build a lot of curiosity. And inspiration.
🤔profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
One idea that I've been thinking about is an #Androidnotesfollow or #iPhonenotesfollow #appnotesfollow where it is a #journalingnotesfollow app so you get a new file everyday right except the app keeps track of all the files for you. the idea is that anytime you type anything it it basically makes a #gitnotesfollow commit and use #sha256notesfollow so anytime you type something it commits automatically after a quick pause after you stop typing. #codingnotesfollow #automationnotesfollow #devnotesfollow
profilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Made barbecue this evening. Lamb and chicken for meat, pepper and zucchini for veggies. Yummy! Kids loved it, the boy's sleeping now, the girl is reading a book, the wife's out with her girls, I'm with wine. Life's good.
looking at the German public railway system (DB), I always wonder if the stereotypes of timeliness and precision were ever actually true. Surely someone must've figured out by now how off they are? These trains are always late and / or broken.
just finished the book “This is what inequality looks like” by Teo You Yenn. will gather my thoughts and write more about it.
I have a toddler. I come home from work, cook, feed, clean, wash up. We read stories and play. I put him to bed. Then I put something on the television and my wife and I scroll on our phones until she goes to bed. I am not so careless with the little free time I have. I continue to scroll until about 1 am. The next morning I do it again. On the weekends, I get to drink wine.
profilefollowEat, drink, listen to 🎶, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied toprofilefollow:
I prefer to drink wine at night and read an eBook or watch when something good comes up on streaming media. Can’t always get what I prefer and that is life.
profilefollowDigital business analyst, mostly on AI. Addicted to apps and domains. Family man.replied toprofilefollow:
Same. And on Monday, I look back and wonder how I ever got to fit five or six things in one weekend, and now one or two things fill it up entirely. Love the little ones though, they're my world.
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
Hello textlog 👋
profilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
bill gates built microsoft by making computation cheaper faster and harder for government to restrain. now that he's a billionaire no longer dependent on the free market for his own success he's discovered the virtues of taxing the next wave of computation. 1995 gates would have called it a tax on innovation. classic pull-the-ladder-up-behind-you politics. #billgatesnotesfollow #microsoftnotesfollow #AInotesfollow #AItaxnotesfollow #techpolicynotesfollow
profilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.replied toprofilefollowSoftware • maker projects • music • DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.:
These were exactly my thoughts reading about how he thinks we should “preserve” some jobs for people; I don’t remember him being an advocate of preserving the jobs of typists, draftsman, typesetters, and other clerks when his company was leading a prior digital revolution…
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profilefollowNo idea who I am.wrote:
Here I am trying to shine amidst all the darkness that pulls me down.
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
I've been building a Markdown variant called Zd that's focused on extensibility and simplicity. I'm curious what you would change about Markdown if you were designing it from scratch, what challenges you face as a user, or what you wish were easier to do when incorporating Markdown into your own projects.
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Yeah, 100%. That is completely something I am punting on currently. It would be easy to just copy over the solution from (extensions to) Markdown, but it's hard to entirely narrow in on both what tables ought to do and how to make them do it. If you had a magic wand, what would you have them be more like?
به نام خداوند جان آفرین
In the name of God, the Giver of Life.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:
Just three more commits left, but /usage ran out. Resets at 01:50, so I guess I am going to sleep.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerscontinued:
Woke up during the night for a short trip to the loo, got 'resume’ going. All done in the morning. Ahh, coffee tastes better now!
Cool!! I'm currently designing and idea-shopping for an ultra light weight, super aesthetic browser whose goal is to go back to HTML roots and just be a "document browser". It would have HTML 4 and semantic HTML support, images, videos, full HTTP support, cookies, etc. No CSS, JS
profilefollowi create thingswrote:
Inspired by two projects of github:schildep I start to explore what can be expressed in Lean and make coding agents implement and prove the implementation at the same time.
profilefollowi create thingscontinued:
The two projects of github:schildep are "3d mesh intersection" and "multipolygon intersection". I can try "Voronoi diagram generation" as a starter.
profilefollowi create thingswrote:
OK. I've translated the (correctness) requirements of LeetCode No.22 to Lean, and ask Claude Code to both implement a solution and prove it.
profilefollowi create thingscontinued:
In the first attempt, Opus 4.7 successfully completed it and proved it. However, the solution is to enumerate all possible space and .filter out anything that doesn't qualify my definition, which is obviously not ideal (if cheating is too harsh).
profilefollowi create thingscontinued:
I can't think of a good way to also prevent that kind of solutions and ended up prompting "please don't enumerate and filter". Opus 4.7 then reimplemented and proved the backtracking algorithm.
Feather to paper that's moon inked for you -- a greeting from somewhere. It isn't for you. But it will be for you.
profilefollowwrote:
I think more than 50% of our economy's businesses, are cosplaying. Not in it for customers or profit; in it for investors and investments. "Looking like a business", as your real line of work.
I've never thought of something like OF as gambling. But I guess your point is that young adults are pushed to a lot of "you have a 0.1% chance of hitting it big and a 99.9% chance of getting no online traction at all" types of careers?
Yeah, no point in investing in yourself or a real sustainable long-term future, just gamble the little you have for a shot at life above the line. Barbell economy.
profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied toprofilefollow:
a business loan is not an investment, it is debt financing that pays back with interest. An investment means putting money into a company to gain ownership or a share of future profits. to me it feels like youre arguing against cosplaying, showing small businesses struggle and arent just playing boss for the funzies.
🤔profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Since you guys are on textlog I think you will find this article and discussion interesting lobste.rs/s/5gcd3t/html_can_doLobstersHTML Can Do That22 comments chrisburnell.com/html-can-do-that/Chris BurnellHTML Can Do ThatHTML has been gobbling up swathes of what used to be JavaScript’s remit. This page lists a bunch of dynamic functionality that we can now achieve with just HTML. A character count though that still requires JavaScript sadly enough 🥺
I think if @stagasprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog intends to be an active user of the site henceforth, it'd it should be kosher. Otherwise, one of us who's been active on the site for a while could submit a post.
profilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
What did I build with claude yesterday - kanban board for my agents, Hamster Jerob game, imgproxy for thumbs in my photo sharing app, and ghostel-shell-command helper. Today - digital detox day.
hey creator, this place is nice, posts look organic and the no javascript, I love it, with that said @stagasprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog have you consider NOT opening the API? and have a 1 way to come here and enjoy it? the rationale being that API also opens the door to the slopai?
profilefollowLiving by the Zen of Python! keyboardinterrupt.comwrote:
Frustrated with my phone usage again tonight, I uninstalled several pointless and time-consuming apps. It’s a cycle I repeat every few months. During this cycle, I wasted a lot of time on one of those puzzle-matching games. I'm considering switching to Ubuntu Touch at this point
curious to know whats the experience of production push in other companies? e.g lots of documents/approvals…
profilefollowNew herewrote:
How did all the tech oligarchs seem to go fash so quickly?
Choice is definitely a problem. We notice it when we go to our cabin, about a 2 1/2 hour drive away. The grocery store there targets #foodnotesfollow for its local community. It is beef-centric and often boxed foods -- which is not our diet. Access -- or lack thereof -- is the worst kind of problem. Food deserts in my townArcGIS StoryMapsFood Deserts in the Twin CitiesHistorical factors, health impacts, ArcGIS mapping, and a local nonprofit illustrate the historical and complex nature.
It didn’t work out, we found competition offering the same service for free so the #ideanotesfollow fell apart. Need to find something else to do as a side project to textlog. 😕 Thinking of a code editor that’s focused on the new agentic workflows, so you have it on the side regardless of your agent tools and it monitors the git diff and offers a nice panorama view. I’ve done an extension for VSCode similar to this idea.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:
Maybe implementing a subset of Markdown would be a good thing. I am thinking about bold, italics, inline code, and code block, mostly. Oh, and links.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied toprofilefollow:
I think so. It could even be made a setting, defaulting it to off. I think it would be useful, especially is self-hosted for a tech community.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerscontinued:
Cool! Let’s test it with a link to Google.
🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
I've tested MD and honestly I don't like it. Bold/italics add unnecessary noise/clutter and the font is already monospace, suited for code, so inline code & code fences are not needed. If 3rd party clients want to implement them it's fine but I'm sensitive to visual noise.
It doesn’t have the high but it will make you more alert, kind of like tea or coffee.
last time i checked cbd was just not psychoactive at all no?
I just took a look on it yesterday and seems like the stimulant effect is there, so seems like at this point there are mix results on if it actually helps with anxiety and sleep issues. For me personally seems to work just fine but Im not 100% sure how much does it actually does something for me or is just a placebo effect. My thinking is that if I do it from time to time, I can let my body get use to the feeling of a sleep schedule without create dependency on external melatonin dosis or CBD.
profilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
(defun textlog-post (beg end) "Publish the region between BEG and END to `textlog-url'. Interactively, requires an active region. Returns the URL of the new post when the server reports one."
I'm making a Kakoune version of this for sure.
You have #kakounenotesfollow, there is no need. I tried Emacs out a while ago to see whether it could replace Kakoune (I wanted to draw arbitrary stuff like images, 3D views, etc., in the editor) but honestly, Kakoune makes everything so easy to integrate that it was hard for it to compete.
I was obsessed with Greece as a kid because of The Chipmunk's Adventure movie where they were dancing on the statues, ha. I was more into he statues (even if cartoon) than the dancing, and yet I have still never been there (I'm 45).
Crete is beautifulIt is!hiking a long gorgeThat would be Samaria Gorgeen.wikipedia.orgSamaria Gorge - Wikipedia! it’s not very far from here and it’s the largest in Greece, 7–8 hours hiking. You arrive at a beautiful beach. I crossed it when I was little, I remember whining a lot because for my small feet it was much harder.