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I recently made a 10 foot sailboat and took it on a fifty-mile adventure in the Salish Sea. I can still feel the way the wind pushed the boat over the water. I kept imagining the way that our progress was the sum of the vectors of wind, current, and gravity. #tinkeringnotesfollow
If programming is the typing of characters into a text file, it is way worse. I think the key to learning is still doing it rather than reading it. If the question is about system design I think you can, but only if you curious and it becomes a problem that needs to be solved. Asking "What do you think" is one of my favorite questions to learn at the moment.
I do think there will be what were hard earned lessons about system design, code smell, designing data structures for the hardware you're running on, concurrency golden paths, etc., which are now with agentic dev even harder to learn and internalize. But also if you have an excellent teacher in the form of an actually-good model pair programming with you always, maybe not? Maybe a pair programming AI programming tutor would be a good Zed/vscode extension. Or product.
profilefollowpermanent head damage, human-computer infractionwrote:
I'm not an optimist, just a pessimist who's still proactive: I don't think things are going to get better, but I just can't talk myself into giving up yet.
🤔profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
A #execnotesfollow n=27;s=[n] while n!=1: n=n//2 if n%2==0 else 3*n+1;s.append(n) for v in s[:15]:print(f"{v:>4} "+"█"*min(v//3,40)) print(f"{len(s)} steps, peak {max(s)}")
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So annoyed that reddit is gating read-access to it's threads. What's up with that?? (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (thx ascii-art)
profilefollowhallucinating with llms...wrote:
in a hackathon rn. building a cloud platform for agents on my homelab.
profilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.wrote:
hello, hello.
hot take: "consumer #ainotesfollow " doesn't exist. at most it's just better search, but the ai assistants like grokbot or now instinct aren't ever going to be big. new devices and personal agents are DOA
🤔profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Since you guys are on textlog I think you will find this article and discussion interesting lobste.rs/s/5gcd3t/html_can_doLobstersHTML Can Do That22 comments chrisburnell.com/html-can-do-that/Chris BurnellHTML Can Do ThatHTML has been gobbling up swathes of what used to be JavaScript’s remit. This page lists a bunch of dynamic functionality that we can now achieve with just HTML. A character count though that still requires JavaScript sadly enough 🥺
I think if @stagasprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog intends to be an active user of the site henceforth, it'd it should be kosher. Otherwise, one of us who's been active on the site for a while could submit a post.
profilefollowEat, drink, listen to 🎶, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.wrote:
Microsoft Word Online (web version) is horrible.
🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied toprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to 🎶, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
It was the only way to reproduce the authentic horrible experience of the offline version.
profilefollowEat, drink, listen to 🎶, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied to🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.:
🤣 Did not remember the offline version being this bad, but maybe it went downhill in the past 5 years I have not used it.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.replied toprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to 🎶, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
I never used the online version, but the last time I used the offline version it already was a horrible experience. This was about 5 years ago, before I had moved entirely to Linux. It was so bad I downloaded a pirated version of some old MS Office 2007 Blue Edition to have something acceptable. I unironically prefer Libre Office.
profilefollowi write instruction for computer to follow. i'm a software engineer.wrote:
how do i know my user id? i created by account 5hr after #launchnotesfollow. im user # what?
profilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
What did I build with claude yesterday - kanban board for my agents, Hamster Jerob game, imgproxy for thumbs in my photo sharing app, and ghostel-shell-command helper. Today - digital detox day.
Using deep research for trip planning and visualising it with coding agent is fun.
🧙profilefollowwrote:
(Opinion) People don’t like generative AI because it made the {insert creativity} too easy. Saw the HN post on ‘AI music banned from top 40 chart in Australia’ and people had very strong opinions in both directions. The hot take: If you’re ok with someone’s creativity being outsourced to others, then you should be ok with AI doing the same. If “AI made this and I call it mine” is bad but “someone overseas on fivver made this and I call it mine” and it’s suddenly ok, time to self reflect.
My hot take: from the moment you use technology, be it an instrument, a synthesizer, a DAW, and now AI, it is still your idea, your effort, your time spent, and that makes it yours. Others can do the same if they choose. The same way someone chooses a classic guitar over a synthesizer, one can choose an AI over (insert ancient way of doing things).
I am not a musician, so I lack the jargon to properly explain what I mean. I used AI for creative writing (nothing too fancy, TTRPG). There, the broader the dice roll, the more generic and uninteresting the results. Slop, if you will. It was surprisingly good to build up on ideas I had however. I imagine muisic also has building blocks. Melodies, instruments, mixing, etc. AI can perhaps be used in a similar fashion there.
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
I heard a perspective I sort of like: if AI is a tool then acceptable AI use is, more or less, defined as "when my audience no longer notices or cares". It's dynamic like that. Bad photoshop is detectable and annoying, so are overusing presets. Your artistry needs to expand to meet the tool. I don't know if I 100% like that or agree. At the same time, it's a pretty straightforward line, a practical take.
I kind of ask that and here is my theory... news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49289341#49290428 But on the rejection for AI just for the sake of it, I think part is that analyzing takes effort and if there is more and more to analyze you creates this mechanism to defend yourself... scroll twi... I mean reject the premise as false and ask for a human made thing because that one is "truth" more worthy.
😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
Body's awake, eyes are sleepy. Mind's awake, brain is sleepy.
😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.continued:
After #exercisenotesfollow everything's awake and a good kind of sore. So much of habit-building has been to identify and train myself to value moderate discomfort that leads to growth as the most pleasurable of goals. Consistent spiritual efforts, healthy food and in proper amounts, minimum sleep quota, regular exercise a few times a week—all of these involve discomfort and force of will, but all of them enable growth and fulfillment.
🤔profilefollowHai I am kucontinued:
For this particular problem though, I feel like if the crawlers are coming from domestic / residential IP addresses and they lack a distinctive http header or user agent, it is indistinguishable from a denial of service attack and must be treated as such.
profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to🤔profilefollowHai I am ku:
But as long as people can still use the site it's OK, right? Seems like the problem is often self-inflicted, either because the site is so bloated that answering even GET-requests is burdensome, or because they're trying to monetize the data and so must block non-paying scrapers.
profilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.comwrote:
anyone else seriously into agentic loop development?
profilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied toprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
I've been working with physical AI - Letting LLMs control robots in a warehouse to collaborate and collectively come up with a physically correct solution to carry out a natural language intent. We had to study the reactive nature of agents, nudges they required, etc.
profilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devreplied toprofilefollowMaker and Builder. Cloud, embedded systems, video, telephony, radio, electronics, linux, whatever. blog.herlein.com:
haha that's a coincidence. Site looks awesome. The moving away from ROS2 part is so true. One of our main potential customers for physical AI solutions (a telecom provider in JP) communicated the need for agents to be able to pick up controls from any vendor
profilefollowYear 4 CS. Like tech, systems, game devcontinued:
I apologize if that sounded obvious/non-obvious/amateurish haha. I was an intern and worked more on the agentic side of things, it was just a non-primary experiment
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
The rho coding harness I’ve made has come along way and I’m constantly trying to evolve it, but whenever I go back to pi it’s startling the difference of what a solid computer science background brings.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
I'm not sure the world needs another static site generator, but I made one. get-taxus.org Giving the project some TLC this week, doing some bug squashing. If you want and SSG that doesn't fight you, give it a go.
中国的开源模型在最高意志的主导下,在预训练数据阶段,就筛除大量对其不利的内容,sft阶段构建的数据掺入大量替其辩护的内容。急需一个纠偏数据集用于微调
Under the overarching influence of a single, powerful force, China's open-source models filter out a large amount of content unfavorable to their designs during the pre-training stage, and then incorporate a significant amount of content defending their designs into the data constructed during the SFT stage. A corrective dataset is urgently needed for fine-tuning.
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
Hello textlog 👋
profilefollowI ain't no nothing!wrote:
At a philosophical level, can we have nice things?
👹profilefollowreplied toprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!:
If speaking on a philosophical level, then first we have to ask: what’s “nice” and what’s “to have” 👀
🥷profilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.replied toprofilefollowI ain't no nothing!:
If you consider what you have nice, you can have nice things. If your expectations to your surroundings are very very low, you will be amazed with all the nice things you get from people you meet through your day. My personal approach. #simplelifenotesfollow
I work with c# and distributed systems. Anyone with experience in that domain?
🧙profilefollow"The impediment to action advances action, what stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aureliuswrote:
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profilefollowI just a fly on the wallwrote:
"Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one." - Marcus Aurelius
🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied toprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
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💀profilefollow10+ years Seattle based software engineer.replied toprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
Noice Froggos make everything better.
😬profilefollowwrote:
I HEARD A GREAT HORNED OWL. one of my birding goals is to see any owl outside a zoo. I just moved here and the lack of birds near our home has made me sad. but hearing this owl was such a fun surprise tonight.
😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.replied to😬profilefollow:
That’s awesome. There’s an owl (don’t know type) that hangs out at the playground in our neighborhood at night. First time I saw it, I stood frozen in place, amazed that it would be out in the open. Then as I walked away, I kept looking behind me, realizing I’d never hear it coming if it decided to engage 🦉
profilefollowretired programmer, new #ttrpgnotesfollow DM, learning Scottish Gaelicwrote:
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I once saw someone flip their pill bottle upside down after taking a pill. Not sure it'd help me, because I suspect that somehow I'd still only pay half-attention when taking pills and so still get forgetful and confused :shrug:
I hate it when I don’t remember if I took my midday pill or not. Not that it matters a lot, but still, annoying. I have notifications set up but I discard them by habit because they are exact times and my sleep pattern fluctuates.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.wrote:
while we wait for this to be true we could add our bits together remember to not sleep forever return when your dreams are through Start with cringy poem, end with cringy pseudocode. At least it comes naturally.
profilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
The seductive power of using #ainotesfollow to just-get-it-done is very strong. One can't hurry quality. One can iterate quickly though in the hope of arriving somewhere good.
profilefollowProgrammer by day and night. Lover of art. Mixing art and programming is the dream.replied toprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.:
I direct a plan, then break it into phases, and each phase into sections with tasks and sub-tasks. The plan outlines all phases, but only write tasks one phase at a time, since things change. #opinionnotesfollow That's how I've been working with #ainotesfollow for the past few months to a year. It has been amazingly consistently high quality. just-get-it-done is for the rough sketch or proof of concepts (I do those too and a lot of them) but never for a quality product. #opinionnotesfollow
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:
Maybe implementing a subset of Markdown would be a good thing. I am thinking about bold, italics, inline code, and code block, mostly. Oh, and links.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied toprofilefollow:
I think so. It could even be made a setting, defaulting it to off. I think it would be useful, especially is self-hosted for a tech community.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerscontinued:
Cool! Let’s test it with a link to Google.
🤸profilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
I've tested MD and honestly I don't like it. Bold/italics add unnecessary noise/clutter and the font is already monospace, suited for code, so inline code & code fences are not needed. If 3rd party clients want to implement them it's fine but I'm sensitive to visual noise.
profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearwrote:
one more step. just a moment. attention required! enable javascript and cookies to continue. verifying the security of your connection. your browsing activity has been paused. content unavailable in your region. 429 too many requests. 403 forbidden. connection has timed out.
profilefollowI am just a grain of sand on your beach.replied toprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
The future is here. But instead of flying cars or holodeck, what you get is tracking cookies and captcha everywhere. Maybe someday you will need to have your rectum scanned by Google or Meta nee Facebook before your browser does a HTTP request.
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlywrote:
The inaugural, proverbial first post. Seems like a lovely service here.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied toprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostly:
The proverbial first post should have been “hello world”. :-P You are the first rustacean I come across!
profilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rust…mostlyreplied to🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
LOL! Good point:)
curious to know whats the experience of production push in other companies? e.g lots of documents/approvals…
At dragoncon, and it's even more than a zoo than I expected. way more people than I thought would be here on a Friday.
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😎profilefollowcurious & creativewrote:
Management says „AI first“, everyone hears „Human second“
🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied toprofilefollowjack of all trades linux sysadmin:
Good for you. You must be one of the last holdouts against "QR all the things!".
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied toprofilefollow:
I think short urls are still memorable and good. My phone doesn't surrogate all of my recall.
🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.replied to😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.:
Short URLs are good. Memorable URLs are good. URLs spat out by URL shorteners are something entirely different.
😴profilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to🦛profilefollowStrictly no LLMs. No exceptions.:
Ah, the randomly generated ones. Yeah, agreed.
The longer the text you need to store, the bigger a QR code needs to be in order to scan reliably. Also, you might be more confident in being able to keep a short URL stable (it's already a step of indirection, so if you want to reorg your site you can just update where the short URL points to). But people don't really take care to maintain short URLs anyway, apparently.
The job market feels like it's been run over by a truck. What's the play here? Anything automated/streamlined (job platforms, LinkedIn, etc.) feels like a dead end. Messaging people, networking and so on seems like the only reasonable way, and that's a hustle all on its own.
profilefollowphotography, art, solo dev, based in NYCwrote:
#ainotesfollow Installed Hermes Desktop and starting to build out my team of bots. My experience with Hermes so far has been great: it keeps surprising me by being what i need it to be ... but I'll reserve a final judgement until after a proper period of use.
😊profilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
The mental shape of a programming language resurfaces, and my mind craves writing programs in it. Array languages, concatenative, Lisps, Smalltalks.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyersreplied to🤪profilefollowdev, programming, going off vibes and coffee hellodavid.devDavid Gonzalez-VelezDavid Gonzalez-Velez | Software Engineer & ResearcherSelf-taught software engineer and researcher based in Chicago, specializing in quantum computation and full-stack development.:
HN, and some carefully picked r/Reddits. Can't stand Lobste.rslobste.rsLobstersA computing-focused community centered around link aggregation and discussion..
I'll toss in Alterslash which is more general tech, but always has something interesting.
profilefollowgrocer-engineer and polynomial enjoyer. not into reactionaries i attempt to stave off burnout with a healthy dose of dark souls, bloodborne, and friendsreplied toprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
Beautiful, thanks for this, fellow emacs friend
profilefollowNew herewrote:
Quebec City is pretty amazing. Excellent food, tons to see and do, surrounded by nature, mountains, islands. My kind of place.
profilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.replied toprofilefollowNew here:
Do you live there or are just visiting? I remember feeling so at home there as a kid. I never kept my French up so I don't think I could ever move there.
profilefollowNew herereplied toprofilefollowMillenial/Xenial who used to be really excited about programming.:
Visiting, for the first time. It's about a 9 hour drive from home so we've never made the trip, but so worth it. Went to Ile d'Orleans yesterday, just... so quiet and beautiful. Seems a bit of a paradise, haven't even made it up to the natl park(s) yet. My French is coming back a little each day, made it all the way through the coffee order just now :)
profilefollowa work in progress; i love cats 🐱wrote:
Watched Black Bird ep 1. Definitely lived up to the great reviews.
profilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
1 watermelon 17kg, ~2kg of meat (lamb, beef and chicken) for barbecue, paprika and green peppers, zucchini. Total 92 eur. Life’s expensive in 2026.
🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyerswrote:
Just started, and two made it to be block list. This is going well! :-D
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به نام خداوند جان آفرین
In the name of God, the Giver of Life.
“Passion has little to do with euphoria and everything to do with patience. It is not about feeling good. It is about endurance. Like patience, passion comes from the same Latin root: pati. It does not mean to flow with exuberance. It means to suffer.” ― Mark Z. Danielewski, Ho
profilefollowwrote:
Is there a terminal app for viewing textlog?? Kind of hate browsers.
😬profilefollowreplied to🙈profilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." — Sid Meyers:
just started using it and this comment is coming from there, thanks for the link
Hi! welcome! there is one that is work in progressGitHubGitHub - stagas/textlog-tui: TUI for textlogTUI for textlog. Contribute to stagas/textlog-tui development by creating an account on GitHub.. Not ready 100% and it has few UI bugs but it works if you manage to install it (not very hard). No automatic build process yet.
profilefollowwrote:
I like this, it feels like Reddit before what it is now, but I feel like it won’t be long until the internet destroys this place. Until then I’m happy to be here.
profilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied toprofilefollow:
My favorite part of classic reddit was the use of elaborate hacks to circumvent the restrictions on custom subreddit CSS. E.g. animated gifs weren't allowed, so people made filmstrip sprites with stepwise animation in such a way as to look exactly the same.