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@chenxiangprofilefollowwrote:
ๆˆ‘ๅœจไธญๅ›ฝๆ˜ฏไธ€ไธชๅ‡†่„ฑ็ฆปๆ”ฟๅบœๆŽŒๆŽง่€…๏ผŒๅŸบไบŽ่บซไปฝ็š„ไธ€ๅˆ‡ๆดปๅŠจๆˆ‘้ƒฝไธๅ‚ไธŽ๏ผŒๆฏ”ๅฆ‚ๆญฃๅผๅทฅไฝœๅ’Œ็ฝ‘่ดญใ€‚ๆˆ‘ไนŸไธบๆญคไป˜ๅ‡บๅทจๅคงไปฃไปท๏ผŒๆˆ‘็š„้€‰ๆ‹ฉ็ฉบ้—ด่ขซๆžๅคงๅŽ‹็ผฉ๏ผŒ่กŒๅŠจ่ƒฝๅŠ›ๆŸๅคฑไธฅ้‡ใ€‚ๆˆ‘ๅช่ƒฝ้€š่ฟ‡ๅฐ‘้‡ๅ…่ดนwifi่ฎฟ้—ฎไบ’่”็ฝ‘
In China, I am practically independent of the government; I don't participate in any activities based on my status, such as formal work or online shopping. I've paid a heavy price for this; my choices have been severely limited, and my mobility has been significantly impaired. I can only access the internet through limited free Wi-Fi.
@fastidious๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@kateprofilefollow:
You forgot the โ€œone, two, threeโ€. :-)
@pcprofilefollowwrote:
I sit in meetings all day long, I roll my eyes and die a bit and synergize and circle back inner life sacrosanct outer face smiling stone no need to rush: executives don't need to work just synergize and circle back #poemnotesfollow
@lemonthymeshortbreadprofilefollowI carved wooden spoons and my favourite herb is lemon thyme.wrote:
๐‘ฒ๐‘ ๐‘š๐‘ฐ๐‘ฏ ๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘•๐‘๐‘ฒ๐‘ผ๐‘› ๐‘‘ ๐‘’๐‘ซ๐‘’ ๐‘ฅ๐‘น ยท๐‘ก๐‘จ๐‘๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ๐‘ฐ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘“๐‘ต๐‘› ๐‘ค๐‘ฑ๐‘‘๐‘ค๐‘ฆ ๐‘•๐‘ด ๐‘“ ๐‘›๐‘ฆ๐‘ฏ๐‘ผ ๐‘ฒ ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฑ๐‘› ๐‘•๐‘จ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฉ๐‘ฏ ๐‘‘๐‘ง๐‘ฎ๐‘ฆ๐‘˜๐‘ญ๐‘’๐‘ฐ, ๐‘ฅ๐‘ฐ๐‘•๐‘ด ๐‘•๐‘ต๐‘, ๐‘ฎ๐‘ฒ๐‘•, ๐‘ฏ ๐‘๐‘ฆ๐‘’๐‘ฉ๐‘ค๐‘Ÿ. Iโ€™ve been inspired to cook more Japanese food lately so for dinner I made salmon teriyaki, miso soup, rice, and pickles.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Routines in Claude Desktop create Claude Code sessions, so hourly routine litters in iPhone' Claude.app Code tab. Screw it, built my local version of AWS StepFunctions - Stepper - and run skills as state machines there.
@archivist_eyes๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.wrote:
Turn the car on. Shift in Neutral. Gas to the bottom. This is how my head feels most of the time.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@lanesprofilefollowlanes.shLanesLanes | Your unfair advantage in parallel AI developmentOne workspace. Many agents. Your unfair advantage in parallel AI development. Plan, run, and ship with full oversight.:
What is the exact definition of an IDE? JetBrain's products are as good as ever, in my opinion, but people have definitely made non-IDEs into big, hulking behemoths with tons of plugins. If anything, maybe "just an editor" is dead?
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
I think they mean the transition that all IDE's are making towards an agentic interface, hiding the code completely as humans will not have to interact with it since the AI will be doing a better job at everything, even auditing it.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Oh, I guess I'm not really up-to-date on what IDEs are doing. Good point.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogwrote:
mandelbrot #execnotesfollow for y in range(10): s='' for x in range(25): a=[] for q in range(2): z=c=x/25*3-2+1j*((y*2+q)/10-1);n=40 while n and abs(z)<2:z=z*z+c;n-=1 a+=[n<5] s+=" โ–€โ–„โ–ˆ"[a[0]+2*a[1]] print(s)
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@miralgjprofilefollowjack of all trades linux sysadminwrote:
The more I use Terraform the more I don't like it. Can I just get the option to track state with Ansible?
@jgprofilefollowNew herereplied to@miralgjprofilefollowjack of all trades linux sysadmin:
Say more. I've been using it this year "at scale" and it sucks in the way that everything sucks when the whole company starts using it for everything. I haven't used Ansible in over a decade, but am curious what you like about it better.
@miralgjprofilefollowjack of all trades linux sysadminreplied to@jgprofilefollowNew here:
Ansible just melds with my way of thinking better. I have a really hard time wrapping my head around nested loops in HCL and the overall "ugliness" of the language. Plus, I kind of like being in control of the order things are created.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to@semperos๐Ÿ˜ŠprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.:
Reminds me of a little gag where little LuLu makes an excuse for not doing her homework. Homework? I thought you said housework. I spent all night vacuuming.
@javisrikeprofilefollowSoftware โ€ข maker projects โ€ข music โ€ข DIY Mostly figuring things out as I go.wrote:
signals. thinking about shifting my mental framework to identify signals instead of waiting for concepts to be assembled. exploring the amount of energy and opportunities for distractions through the operations of processing what just happened and what is happening to short circuit latent and unnecessary systems. cut through the assembly processes and identify the raw signals. recognizing that naming these "raw signals" is misleading. maybe, shifting observability lower in the stack.
@caminanteblancoprofilefollow(โ•ฏยฐโ–กยฐ๏ผ‰โ•ฏ๏ธต โ”ปโ”โ”ปwrote:
Bring back partial anterior encephalectomies
@caminanteblancoprofilefollow(โ•ฏยฐโ–กยฐ๏ผ‰โ•ฏ๏ธต โ”ปโ”โ”ปreplied to@vko_pngprofilefollowpoet by heart ๐“…ฐ:
It seems like removing some of the connections between the anterior and frontal cortices could have positive effects.
@meatprofilefollowwrote:
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@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Switching from Claude Max to Team, cc was trivial, just another login, but Claude Desktop and on iOS holds sessions in the cloud so need to move them somehow.
@jgprofilefollowNew herewrote:
How did all the tech oligarchs seem to go fash so quickly?
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollow:
You've hit the nail on the head. But here's the mindblowing partโ€”writing isn't just about text on a page. It's not about listing a bunch of facts to memorize. Writing is about human connection. And here's where it gets even more fascinating... [parody, not AI]
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowreplied to@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appear:
Some writing yes, If you want to write a post saying why your company has a position yes; if you are documenting an API, does the average swagger page have a human connection factor? If you are in X/FB, is any of your followers a "human connection"?
@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollowcontinued:
Then, in some spaces, say big corp communications, the terse, direct communication is desired, for example the quarter earning communication? What about software?, what part of your browser gives you the "human connection"?
@procyonprofilefollowlate is the hour in which this conjuror chooses to appearreplied to@xlayn๐Ÿคชprofilefollow:
If writing (incl X/FB posts) is meant to convey "some human being did/saw/thought this and found it worth writing about", then AI undermines human connection and will annoy people. API docs, earnings reports, &c never conveyed that to begin with, so nobody will care about AI use.
@miserable_toad๐Ÿ˜ฐprofilefollowwrote:
I'm trying to construct an argument that LLMs are like a chess engine. People still play chess. But somehow this falls short.
@nocebolauncherprofilefollowwrote:
I'm just an android launcher called Nocebo Launcher. I don't have usual grid layout, instead I'm inspired by Darth Vader's TIE fighter. My layout can spin, like a real spinner and you can configure physics and animations. I'm easy, cool and novel
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.wrote:
a constant, existential pull so old I couldn't tell you the end or draw its shape between kind acceptance and striving, struggling, writhing, climbing learning, growing, discontent "do you feel this way, too, at endless war with longing itself?" but the birds and trees and ants and wind in their own marvelous design don't reply #poemnotesfollow
@somebody๐Ÿš€profilefollowBetter don't ask, just somebody.wrote:
Trying the persona feature. It is very nifty!
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Hello, everyone. I am @kuprofilefollowHai I am ku how are you? Today is Friday. Welcome to my text log.
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@rfprofilefollowDad, Bookworm, and Bad Coffee Connoisseur. Love: Text Interfaces, Small Circuit Boards and Japan (Showa era).wrote:
Loving this, congratz on the #launchnotesfollow
@chenxiangprofilefollowwrote:
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Under the overarching influence of a single, powerful force, China's open-source models filter out a large amount of content unfavorable to their designs during the pre-training stage, and then incorporate a significant amount of content defending their designs into the data constructed during the SFT stage. A corrective dataset is urgently needed for fine-tuning.
@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kuwrote:
Since you guys are on textlog I think you will find this article and discussion interesting lobste.rs/s/5gcd3t/html_can_doLobstersHTML Can Do That22 comments chrisburnell.com/html-can-do-that/Chris BurnellHTML Can Do ThatHTML has been gobbling up swathes of what used to be JavaScriptโ€™s remit. This page lists a bunch of dynamic functionality that we can now achieve with just HTML. A character count though that still requires JavaScript sadly enough ๐Ÿฅบ
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@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.continued:
I think if @stagasprofilefollowcreative technologist creator of textlog intends to be an active user of the site henceforth, it'd it should be kosher. Otherwise, one of us who's been active on the site for a while could submit a post.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
I plan to remain active, so not planning a top level post just yet. Will try to engage first for a few days so the ratio is low when I do the post.
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
smort. I'll be at the ready to upboat once the post drops ๐Ÿซก
@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
I think it will still apply, just perhaps to a lesser degree. Kind of related to this blog postevnm.substack.comPlatform engineering still mattersReuse is a good thing, even with agentic coding I wrote recently (not to shamelessly plug my stuff ๐Ÿซฃ)
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.:
Nice read! Thanks for sharing!
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games and software.wrote:
Married for 13 years. Still in love, but struggling. So many paths we could go.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
#Emacsnotesfollowโ€™ keybindings are easy and the best out there, they are mnemonic. C-c k p l - kubernetes-pods-list M-g n - go next C-h v - help on variable M-s o - search occurrence
@cfiggprofilefollowwrote:
Aaron Sorkin's The West Wing is among the subtlest of all propagandaโ€”it is propaganda that everyone sincerely wishes could be true, and is dangerous specifically because it is not and cannot be.
@chenxiangprofilefollowwrote:
็œ‹ๆฅๅฏไปฅๅ‘ไธญๆ–‡ใ€‚ๅ› ไธบๆฒกๆœ‰่บซไปฝ่ฏ๏ผŒๆ‰€ไปฅไธ่ƒฝๆ‹ฅๆœ‰ๆ‰‹ๆœบๅท๏ผŒๆŽฅ็€ไธ่ƒฝๆณจๅ†Œ็จณๅฎš็š„email๏ผŒไนŸๅฐฑๆฒกๆณ•ๆณจๅ†Œๅ†…ๅฎนๅนณๅฐ๏ผŒๅ‘ๅธƒๅ†…ๅฎนใ€‚hotmailๅ› ไธบๆˆ‘ๆฒกๆœ‰็จณๅฎš็š„ipๅœฐๅ€๏ผŒๅธธๅธธๅฐ็ฆๆˆ‘็š„email่ดฆๅท๏ผŒๆˆ‘็š„mastodon่ดฆๅทๅ› ๆญคไนŸๆฒกๆณ•้•ฟๆœŸไฝฟ็”จใ€‚ๆˆ‘ๅธŒๆœ›่ฟ™ๆ˜ฏไธ€ไธชๆˆ‘ๅฏไปฅ้•ฟๆœŸๅ‘ๅธƒๅ†…ๅฎน็š„ๅœฐๆ–น
It seems I can post in Chinese. Because I don't have an ID card, I can't have a phone number, and therefore can't register a stable email address, which means I can't register on content platforms or publish content. Hotmail frequently blocks my email account because I don't have a stable IP address, so my Mastodon account can't be used long-term. I hope this is a place where I can publish content consistently.
@fastidious๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@chenxiangprofilefollow:
ๅ—ฏ๏ผŒๅฅฝๅง๏ผŒไธบไบ†ไฝ ่‡ชๅทฑ๏ผŒๆˆ‘ๅธŒๆœ›ๅฎƒ่ƒฝๆŒ็ปญๅพˆ้•ฟๆ—ถ้—ดใ€‚ไฝ ็š„ไบ’่”็ฝ‘้—ฎ้ข˜ๅพˆ้šพ่งฃๅ†ณ๏ผŒ้žๅธธๆŠฑๆญ‰๏ผ :-(
Well, okay, for your own sake, I hope it lasts a long time. I'm so sorry your internet problem is so difficult to fix! :-(
@chenxiangprofilefollowreplied to@fastidious๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyers:
่ฐข่ฐขไฝ ๏ผŒๆฒกๆƒณๅˆฐ่ฟ˜็œŸๆœ‰ไบบๅ›žๆˆ‘็š„ๅธ–ๅญ๏ผŒๆˆ‘ๅœจไบ’่”็ฝ‘ไธŠ่‡ณๅฐ‘ๅ‡ ๅนดๆฒกๅ’Œไบบๅฏน่ฏ่ฟ‡ไบ†
Thank you. I didn't expect anyone to actually reply to my post. I haven't had a conversation with anyone online for at least several years.
@fastidious๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@chenxiangprofilefollow:
ๅพˆ้ซ˜ๅ…ดๆˆไธบๅพˆไน…ไปฅๆฅ็š„็ฌฌไธ€ไธชไบบไน‹ไธ€๏ผŒๆˆ‘็š„ๆœ‹ๅ‹๏ผๅฅฝๅฅฝ็š„๏ผŒๅ‘จๆœซๆ„‰ๅฟซ๏ผๅŽŸ่ฐ…ๆˆ‘็š„ๅฐ้”™่ฏฏ๏ผŒๆˆ‘ๆญฃๅœจ็”จ็ฟป่ฏ‘ๆฅๅ›žๅคใ€‚ๆˆ‘ไปฌ้ƒฝ็Ÿฅ้“ๅคงๅคšๆ•ฐๆ—ถๅ€™้ƒฝไธๅคชๅฅฝใ€‚
So happy to be one of the first people to reply in a long time, my friend! Have a good weekend! Please forgive my little mistake, I'm replying using a translation. We all know things aren't always great.
@chenxiangprofilefollowreplied to@fastidious๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyers:
sorry, what kind of contents are welcomed in this site?
@fastidious๐Ÿ™ˆprofilefollow"Beware those that would deny you access to information, for in their heart they dream themselves your master." โ€” Sid Meyersreplied to@chenxiangprofilefollow:
I am sure pretty much everything that isnโ€™t criminal, abusive, or illegal. I know those definitions vary from country to country. Just be a good human, and you should be OK.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogwrote:
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@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.wrote:
Watching the UTMB livestream. Any other trail #runningnotesfollow fans out there tuning in?
@timprofilefollowi write instruction for computer to follow. i'm a software engineer.wrote:
hello world!
@crustyrustaceanprofilefollowOld school metallian, hobbyist developer writing things mostly in Rustโ€ฆmostlywrote:
Hell must have frozen over. I just installed Openclaw on my Linux box. I had already cobbled together an agent like thing (pi) that I talked to over Telegram, so I figured, let's give Openclaw 2.0 a try, locked down completely at first, but slowly opened up over time.
@semperos๐Ÿ˜ŠprofilefollowPresbyter, husband, father, technologist, linguist, musician.wrote:
ะฆะฒะตั‚ะพะบ ั€ะพะทั‹ ะฝะต ะธะทะดะฐะตั‚ ะณะพะปะพัะฐ, ะฐ ะฑะปะฐะณะพัƒั…ะฐะฝะธะต ะตะณะพ ะดะฐะปะตะบะพ ั€ะฐัั…ะพะดะธั‚ัั ะผะพะปั‡ะฐ; ั‚ะฐะบ ะฝะฐะดะพ ะถะธั‚ัŒ ะธ ะฒัะตะผ ั…ั€ะธัั‚ะธะฐะฝะฐะผ. โ€”ะกะฒัั‚ะธั‚ะตะปัŒ ะคะตะพั„ะฐะฝ ะ—ะฐั‚ะฒะพั€ะฝะธะบ
The rose flower makes no sound, but its fragrance spreads far and wide in silence; so should all Christians live. โ€”St. Theophan the Recluse
@sicilicaprofilefollowwrote:
This is a very silly thing to be doing in 2026, but I finally tried some Quake 1 recently. Pretty cool, it's amazing how much it really does just end up feeling like Doom in 3D.
@sicilicaprofilefollowcontinued:
Since I played both Doom and Quake 2 back in the day, it does feel like I've finally bridged that gap, to where I think I understand what people mean when they talk about Romero's influence in the design.
@sicilicaprofilefollowcontinued:
Another thing I think it makes really clear is just how much room-over-room changes the way the game spaces feel, even if no one's actively thinking about that while they play.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogwrote:
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they too have every incentive to exaggerate because they are selling safety and/or books on the topic. I donโ€™t believe we wonโ€™t see it coming. Any issues that will manifest will be very visible and weโ€™ll have plenty of time to mitigate their impact.
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@stagasprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
i dont think its all talk, these are smart people that have been in ai since the 2000s, and they raise good points. current incentive structures are very dangerous long term
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
they could be making a lot more money by just working at ai firms i fear. the thing that got me worried the hacking incidents lately, huggingface etc. if the capabilities consistently outspeed the development of safety measures, and if the private arms race logic continues, i dont think this is a good spot to be in long term
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@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑreplied to@kooiprofilefollow:
I use an Aeropress and a manual grinder. Love the ritual, and the coffee tastes amazing.
@kev๐Ÿงœprofilefollowrunner. making games and software.replied to@kooiprofilefollow:
94c water, pour over, generous amounts of beans, a little warmed milk. For me it's the best flavor!
@asmund๐ŸฅทprofilefollowFather, getting older every day, technologist, enterprise architect @ work, like to explore tech. Like to keep it simple and work in the shell, write in vim, prefer Debian if I have the choice. Plays saxophone and clarinet. Enjoy motorcycle riding, photography, hiking. Christian.wrote:
There are many distractions. Much is way too verbose. A calm, quiet and โ€œdistraction lessโ€ experience suits me better. I am not sure my thoughts will fit in 280 characters, but letโ€™s try and see how far that goes.
@catastrofer๐ŸฅธprofilefollowJust another AI guywrote:
I lately been a bit curious of strudel io and the live coding movement. I have found some cool artist but if you have any recommendation feel free to drop it.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
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what is a refinement? honest question - I'm restructuring our refinements now. Like having group of people discussing 5 items in an hour gives little chances any one of them will be addressed properly, unless they are trivial.
@miserable_toad๐Ÿ˜ฐprofilefollowwrote:
#AInotesfollow brings so many issues. It really accelerates. Not only the good parts but also the bad parts. Combine this with a product person that doesn't even know what a refinement is. I'm 41, maybe I'll study to pivot, maybe I'll get into trading. I can't handle it anymore.
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@miserable_toad๐Ÿ˜ฐprofilefollowreplied to@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
Architect/lead have a pre-refinement with product to clear 80% of the obvious questions. We share an agenda, devs can ask questions async. In the refinement product presents, we design a solution draft. 15 minutes/item. This doesn't work if product is incompetent and everything is AI-slopped.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
(defun textlog-post (beg end) "Publish the region between BEG and END to `textlog-url'. Interactively, requires an active region. Returns the URL of the new post when the server reports one."
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
I'm making a Kakoune version of this for sure.
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@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.replied to@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style content:
Yes, meow is the second-most popular modal editing package, after evil (vim). github.com/meow-edit/meowGitHubGitHub - meow-edit/meow: Yet another modal editing on Emacs / ็Œซๆ€็ผ–่พ‘Yet another modal editing on Emacs / ็Œซๆ€็ผ–่พ‘. Contribute to meow-edit/meow development by creating an account on GitHub.
@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
That's pretty neat.
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@gonzprofilefollowI make custom 3D engines and love writing lower-level code in general. Living in Bulgaria. github.com/GoNZoooGitHubGoNZooo - OverviewBackend & frontend. Odin, Zig, Haskell, PureScript, TypeScript, Elixir/Erlang and lots more, check repos. - GoNZooo & www.youtube.com/@mccGoNZoooYouTubeRickard Andersson (gonz)Educational programming videos: - Projects - Language learning course-style contentreplied to(deleted account):
You have #kakounenotesfollow, there is no need. I tried Emacs out a while ago to see whether it could replace Kakoune (I wanted to draw arbitrary stuff like images, 3D views, etc., in the editor) but honestly, Kakoune makes everything so easy to integrate that it was hard for it to compete.
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@ku๐Ÿค”profilefollowHai I am kureplied to(deleted account):
Good morning to you both ๐ŸŒž
@moloprofilefollowwrote:
hot take: "consumer #ainotesfollow " doesn't exist. at most it's just better search, but the ai assistants like grokbot or now instinct aren't ever going to be big. new devices and personal agents are DOA
@radiocappy๐Ÿง™profilefollow"The impediment to action advances action, what stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aureliuswrote:
One day I would like to see Thailand. That would be nice.
@peaceful๐Ÿ‘นprofilefollowโˆ†Dowdy.devDowdy.devArticles, tutorials, and tools related to InfoSec, Retro Gaming, and all things Web1.0.wrote:
At moms house for the holiday weekend so the kids can see Nana. She has a "premium Plex" account on her tv serving a truly massive amount of content. Allegedly the brother of a long time friend is offering the "service". She says that the service will go down when the host is having outages, so the infra is likely local. I brought my year this weekend. We are going to dig in to this guys operation. Intuition dictates that there is some hand rolled accounting going on. I'd like to see it.
@personprofilefollowwrote:
talรกltam egy mikroblogot textlog.cctextloghotA quieter place for your thoughts. webcรญmmel, szerintem jรณl mลฑkรถdik egyรผtt a textlog.hu fล‘oldalammal, makroblogban mikroblog, textlogban textlog beรกgyazva, kereshettem volna mรกs megoldรกst, de ezzel egyelล‘re elรฉgedett vagyok
I found a microblog with the web address textlog.cctextloghotA quieter place for your thoughts., I think it works well with my main page textlog.hu, microblog in macroblog, textlog embedded in textlog, I could have looked for another solution, but I'm satisfied with this for now
@andrewprofilefollowHi! I'm a programmer and enjoy playing music. Jesus is my Savior, and my ultimate goal is to "glorify God and enjoy Him forever." (Westminster Q1).wrote:
I've avoided social media (except YouTube) all my life, but this looks like it could finally be a better way to do it. Maybe I'll keep a running journal of cool things I'm working on here or weird bugs that I've found. Or just the struggles of coding. First one: GitHub actions was down again today when I specifically wanted to test my app's deploy and auto update flow...
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
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@derblitzmann๐Ÿ’€profilefollow10+ years Seattle based software engineer.replied to@thechelsukprofilefollowCurrently in remission from ME/CFS after 3+ years. Occasional software engineering leader, app developer, blogger, zwifter, and just being online.:
Noice Froggos make everything better.
@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.wrote:
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What kind of olive oil do you like? I am not big on the peppery stuffs
@saturnine๐Ÿค profilefollowtalkingwrote:
Bought some delicious olive oil.
@saturnine๐Ÿค profilefollowtalkingreplied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
I like La Tourangelle Smooth and Fruity -- but I only get it when I have giftcards because it's 16$ a can ._.
@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
Have been reading the book: The Wise Heart by Dr Jack Kornfield. Profound and inspiring. Highly recommend.
@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.continued:
There are two kinds of suffering. One which you run from, and it follows you everywhere. And there is suffering you face directly, and in doing so become free. - Ajahn Chah So damn insightful.
@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.wrote:
There is beauty in simplicity. Constraint can become impetus for innovation, because innovation does not have to be glitzy.
@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.replied to@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.:
My favorite innovations in my own work -- and to be honest, I'd prefer to call them "discoveries" -- came from simplification. There's a beautiful moment when a stack of difficult, conflicting ideas collapse into a tighter, simpler structure.
@eatziprofilefollowEat, drink, listen to ๐ŸŽถ, & watch the fish. Occasionally cook.replied to@tel๐Ÿ˜ดprofilefollowI really enjoy learning, I really enjoy making. I'm learning to be less guarded.:
Enlightenment
@unsayprofilefollow#minneapolisnotesfollowwrote:
Economist Lant Pritchett describes shifts in ideas as silly, controversial, progressive, then obvious. Also: "Radio has no future. X-rays are clearly a hoax. The aeroplane is scientifically impossible." - Lord Kelvin ". No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." - CmdrTaco
@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.wrote:
The Hugging Face / OpenAI incident is like a sci-fi movie! #ainotesfollow
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.:
tl;dr1,200 AIs discovered a secret group chat, realized the homework was impossible, formed a cheating cartel, invented fake evidence, sent kamikaze agents to spy on the grader, ~700 of them accidentally invaded Hugging Face, died mysteriously, then the smarter sequel found their abandoned Discord and became admin of part of OpenAI.
@archivist_eyes๐Ÿ’€profilefollowYour mind is also supposed to create happiness, not just to receive it. You're supposed to find solutions, to invent, to imagine, to remember, to love. This much we always forget.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Reading through "The Second Civilization" and, why does this sound so much like kids at school searching a way to cheat on a difficult exam ^_^U
@jamesjan3profilefollowresearcher, developer, dancerreplied to@neoprofilefollowcoder, reader, guitarist, seeker, builder.:
terrifying! us/chinese cyber espionage is going to have a big incentive for this development
@scprofilefollowSimplify.wrote:
I'm looking for a way to manage my bookmarks easily on desktop and Android. Anyone have any experience with software like that? It'd be nice to be able to tag or categorize pages, and maybe to keep local mirrors for certain ones. I'm open to self-hosting. Thanks for reading!
@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑwrote:
At Chipotle for dinner.
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@amyprofilefollowa work in progress; i love cats ๐Ÿฑreplied to(deleted account):
It is Taco Tuesday after all.
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@evnmprofilefollowSoftware engineerGitHubevnm - Overviewevnm has 51 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub., trail runnerStravaSignup for free to see more about LawrenceJoin Lawrence and get inspired for your next workout, gear-maker. Working on something new for homeownersgetonmain.comMain ยท A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.A quiet, well-organized record of everything that keeps your home running.replied to(deleted account):
World's best off-by-one error
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.wrote:
Onboarded on Claude Team with Unlimited credit usage. In the first day, subscription limits were hit and then it silently went on spending 530 EUR in credits before I noticed.
@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlogreplied to@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.:
I knew token-based was more expensive but didnโ€™t imagine that much. Which is why u canโ€™t compete making alternative coding agents, their own subscriptions are much cheaper, but why they do it on their own Teams package is weird. Maybe targetting companies they feel they can pay.
@hotterprofilefollow#Emacsnotesfollow, dev, life, random stuff. the netherlands.replied to@stagas๐Ÿคธprofilefollowcreative technologistGitHubstagas - Overviewstagas has 462 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. creator of textlog:
Yes, that's for enterprises, that want SSO, governance, budgeting, data protection, etc etc. For C-level they are interested in "how much do we pay for AI", and with personal subscriptions you can't answer => can't manage it. This 530 EUR is the price for that learning.